any downsides to T2i?

Koui said:
How can this be if the LCD's native pixel resolution is 640x480 on the 7D and 720x480 on the T2i?
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The native pixel resolutions you are quoting is news to me and I may very well be wrong.

Dpreview specs list the t2i LCD as having 1040,000 pixels 100% coverage and the 7d as having 920,000 pixels 100% coverage.

my earlier spec
480p is 853x480 = 409,440 (less than half)

and for reference your specs
640x480 = 311,040
720x480 = 345,600

now at this point in time to my knowledge no one has measured the exact resolution of the HDMI in progressive frames and what is known is
that it is somewhere between 480p and 720p. Even if it was full 720p that is 921,600 pixels.

But then as I pointed out, I may well be wrong as my calculations are based on specs at dpreview, i ain't counted those pixels myself! :)
 
J Davis said:
I may well be wrong as my calculations are based on specs at dpreview, i ain't counted those pixels myself! :)
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Easy mistake..each pixel is made up of 3 sub-pixels for RGB. So 720x480 = 345,600 x 3 = 1,036,800 - rounded up to 1,040,000 for advertising purposes.

http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Canon_EOS_550D_Rebel_T2i/design.shtml

"The 550D / T2i's screen also sports a slightly higher resolution of 1040k dots compared to the 920k of earlier models. While this may not sound like a big leap, the crucial difference is the entire vertical resolution can now be devoted to the image. When viewing 3:2 images on earlier 4:3 shaped / 920k screens, letterboxing meant the actual image only occupied a portion measuring 640 pixels wide by 427 pixels tall. Now on the EOS 550D / T2i, the full 720x480 pixel resolution of the screen can be used to display images, giving it almost 15% more detail in each axis."
 
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Ian-T said:
Well, for me, with all of the other issues these DSLRs have, I just can’t give this up. Those in-between ISOs are super clean. So I’ll stick with the 7D.
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yes ... thats the big kicker, luckily manual lenses you can move the aperture ring in between stops and for EOS lenses the t2i has 1/3rd stop aperture control.

I looked into all of this very carefully before ordering a t2i. For $799 there has to be some trade off / work around.
 
J Davis said:
now at this point in time to my knowledge no one has measured the exact resolution of the HDMI in progressive frames and what is known is
that it is somewhere between 480p and 720p. Even if it was full 720p that is 921,600 pixels.
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Actually out HDMI it's between 720 and 1080 (It's @1620 x 910 then that image is scaled up to 1920x1080). So it's actually bigger than 720.

J Davis said:
yes ... thats the big kicker, luckily manual lenses you can move the aperture ring in between stops and for EOS lenses the t2i has 1/3rd stop aperture control.

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That's good to know. But I use manual primes 90% of the time. This would just limit me to EOS lenses. Your right however...there has to be a trade-off somewhere.
 
Ian-T said:
Actually out HDMI it's between 720 and 1080 (It's @1620 x 910 then that image is scaled up to 1920x1080). So it's actually bigger than 720.
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Damn ! now I'm really going to have to consider one of those cheapo lilliputz!!

With scarlet just around the corner the extras on these DSLR's are just killing me. :undecided
 
- Lack of good audio monitoring (no headphone jack)
- Can't adjust the audio levels, camera does it automatically
- lack of continuous timecode...lack of ability to set custom timecode
- LCD screen doesn't flip around to various viewing angles.
- I need to buy a separate viewfinder (Z-Finder) to see close and shade from the sun
- To white balance, I have to take a still of a white card, then set the custom white balance in the menus
- only ONE audio input, not 2

Oh, wait, I forgot. THIS IS A STILL CAMERA! Hee. Well, I use it only for home movies, and so far it is GREAT. Even the audio is great, although I tested with a shotgun mic attached to the top and that was better. Looked funny though.

http://twitpic.com/1blp2p

Remember folks, these are STILL CAMERAS first and foremost. So if you are looking for Pro Video features, you should have gotten a pro or prosumer video camera. I still would prefer an HPX-170 for pro work....but I love the T2i for my home stuff. Or quick pickup shots.
 
eL ProduceR said:
1) No HD output, only SD.
2) 7d is better for handheld work
3) 7d and 5d share same battery, handy if you are on a multi-cam shoot
4) Better still capabilities
6) 7d has more ISO options
7) Mystery firmware update in the works...
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A firmware, is it just a rumor at this stage? Would it bo for audio I wonder like the 5D.
 
Shane Ross said:
- Lack of good audio monitoring (no headphone jack)
- Can't adjust the audio levels, camera does it automatically
- lack of continuous timecode...lack of ability to set custom timecode
- LCD screen doesn't flip around to various viewing angles.
- I need to buy a separate viewfinder (Z-Finder) to see close and shade from the sun
- To white balance, I have to take a still of a white card, then set the custom white balance in the menus
- only ONE audio input, not 2

Oh, wait, I forgot. THIS IS A STILL CAMERA! Hee. Well, I use it only for home movies, and so far it is GREAT. Even the audio is great, although I tested with a shotgun mic attached to the top and that was better. Looked funny though.

http://twitpic.com/1blp2p

Remember folks, these are STILL CAMERAS first and foremost. So if you are looking for Pro Video features, you should have gotten a pro or prosumer video camera. I still would prefer an HPX-170 for pro work....but I love the T2i for my home stuff. Or quick pickup shots.
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You seem to have a problem with the word "Pro". These are all tools and the T2i is definitely an amazing camera very capable of producing a professional image which can be used for commercial work. Having worked with an Hpx myself I can say that the T2i holds up pretty well right next to it and in many situations I like the look a lot better.
 
people get stuck in their grooves. Sometimes it's because that is what they have learned, sometimes it's because they have heavily invested in one technology vs another, sometimes it's because the new method poses a threat...whatever it is it makes it hard for them to see the change as good. What is happening is revolution not evolution and these are still the first generations. There will be those who adopt quickly and those who don't, and trying to convince those who don't see where this is going is very tough. It is best to just keep learning and helping those who wish to learn.
 
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