Any 35mm adapter for the hpx500 yet ?

joe 1008 said:
Once there is a well working adapter for 2/3 cameras for under 10k$ there would be hundreds or thousands of existing cameras ready to compete with the RED.
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Joe, no adaptor system will come close to RED. All adaptors are inherently soft. You're shooting a rear projection for chris sakes. I own an SG PRO and love it, I think it's the sharpest of the bunch, but compared to my hvx without it, it doesn't compare in terms of sharpness. And that's where RED will crush the best of the Adaptors out there. A Vipercam with a Pro 35 and Cookes still won't be anywhere in the same league for sharpness. Encoding for the web, sharpness isn't an issue, but as 40" plus TV's become the norm, I believe the adaptor will fade like a fond memory.

A prime lens to adaptor ground glass, relay lens, RGB prism, and finally chipc can't come close to a lens to chip (RED). Red eliminates the unnecessary glass and thank god the RGB prism is gone too. How long will it take for the Biggies to finally do away with that nonsense.

Tim Naylor - DP
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thank god the RGB prism is gone too. How long will it take for the Biggies to finally do away with that nonsense
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Nonsense? Versus using the Beyer pattern single sensor? Every professional camcorder ever manufactured by the "Big 3" (JVC, Sony, Panasonic) has used three chips with a prism because it was better than a single-chip Beyer system.

The ultimate will be the Foveon, a single chip, no prism, but also no Beyer pattern either, so it's capable of true 4:4:4. Don't know when they'll be able to adapt the technology to video though.
 
You know in 2012, holographic recording will blow away the Red... And in 2017, Truelife will eat holographic by a whopping 12 gigabits a sec...

GET OVER IT. READ THE THREAD TOPIC. THIS ISN'T A RED PROPAGANDA FORUM.

The whole point of a the right DOF adapter is to soften the image to an acceptable degree. That's what we're looking for - not a different camera system. You may as well be trolling Sony miracles here. It's the same disrespect to the the thread.
 
John, I can confirm that we are working on the B4 relay module for use with existing Brevis units. In other words, Martin's HPX500 will get a lot shorter, and he won't need to purchase another Brevis unit to do it...just the relay module :) It was necessary to get our optical flip module engineering and testing done first. Expect an XL-H1/H2 version too.
 
Well, our flip optics needed to be done first so we could offer a flipped and non-flipped B4 relay. With camera's like the JVC HD250 out there, we're hoping in a year or two, optical flip units will be obsolete.
 
I'll put up some HPX->Brevis35 grabs in a few days.

If you're looking for samples of how the HPX500 handles different lighting conditions, take a look at http://www.martinkunert.com The HD video takes two or more minutes to download (depending on your connection speed), but it's high rez, so should give you a indication of the camera's ability. You'll note there's a lot of shallow DOF, but that's due to the 2/3" chips. The Brevis35 only makes it better.

Best-
m k
 
Martin, grabs from your setup would be great. If you've got some fast 35mm glass up front, installing CF3L will increase the apparent shallowness of the DOF by a factor of about 2. That's a subjective evaluation of course but it's quite apparent in footage.
 
Today I´ve been on a set where the DP used a Varicam with Zeiss primes. Though the DOF isn´t as shallow as 35mm at let´s say f 4 it really looked GOOD. Far better than all the ENG-DOF we are used to see on TV. Those additional one or two stops a prime can provide in comparision to a zoom lens really matter. There should be cheap(er) CAC primes! With three of them (30, 55, 80mm - compared to 35mm) you could shoot in almost every situation and for many people an adapter with all the inmanent problems would become obsolete.
 
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Barry_Green said:
Every professional camcorder ever manufactured by the "Big 3" (JVC, Sony, Panasonic) has used three chips with a prism because it was better than a single-chip Beyer system.
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Emphasis on 'has' and 'was'. Single CMOS image quality is now better than anything three CCDs puts out. Just look at the image quality from any Canon DSLR or the current RED footage. Look at some footage from the $800 HV20 when by-passing the compression. Canon has very clearly committed to CMOS, and given how they always roll out new technology in consumer models, it's clear that a prosumer version of the HV20 won't be far away.

But, even if CMOS wasn't putting out better imagery, getting rid of the prism block and all that CA is going to be worth it alone. With single chip glass, a $30K WA ENG zoom is going to cost about $1,700. Canon's L primes are some of the best glass in the world and no three plane glass (including Canon's) can even come remotely close. If Canon were to put an EF mount on a pro level HV20 with a CMOS sensor, the adapter market would disappear overnight and the footage would make you cry.

(And as a by-product of the EOS mount, you'd get wireless, motorless, follow focus and iris control thrown in for free)
 
I gave up waiting on a 35mm adapter and ordered a Red. Now I just have to wait for Red to get built. If a 35mm adapter that would come out for the HPX500 today, I would still buy it to have until my red ships.


dolby
 
dolby said:
I gave up waiting on a 35mm adapter and ordered a Red. Now I just have to wait for Red to get built. If a 35mm adapter that would come out for the HPX500 today, I would still buy it to have until my red ships.


dolby
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Um, okay. :huh:

They are TOTALLY different cameras, but whatever works for you.
 
Who pissed in your corn flakes?

I know they are different cameras....but they will be used for the same purpose. I was just making a point that I am tired of waiting.



mcgeedigital said:
Um, okay. :huh:

They are TOTALLY different cameras, but whatever works for you.
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dolby said:
Who pissed in your corn flakes?

I know they are different cameras....but they will be used for the same purpose. I was just making a point that I am tired of waiting.
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same purpose to a point maybe. both capture images. good luck grabbing the red, throwing it on your shoulder, and shooting something on the fly.

if all you do is film-type shoots then no problem but run and gun aint happening on the red.
 
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