Analog outputs

Unless specs change, you're going to need an HDSDI-HDYUV or an HDMI-HDYUV A/D converter. All outputs seem to be digital at the moment.

There's a good chance of a couple frames of delay in the conversion. If there is a delay and you're doing IMAG it might be a problem. If you're going live to tape (or Disk) you need to delay the audio and other sources accordingly.
 
Got to wonder on the logic of a digital mixing box that doesn't take a digital input! That means the lovely digital signal from the camera would have to be converted to analogue, just so the mixer could convert it back to digital again to process the signal. That's just plain daft.

There are no SD or analogue video outputs on RED. It's a digital camera of the finest quality. Do Edirol not make a digital mixer that takes digital inputs?

Graeme
 
The V440HD works amazing with indie level cams like the HD100, Sony Z1u, HVX200 which all don't have digital outputs like HD-SDI (well maybe firewire) but all do have analog component outs that bypass HDV or DVCproHD compression.

For a staging company producing IMAG or for the prosumer indie guy like myself producing TV pilots in HD the cams and the V440HD are the only real affordable choice.

All of the other switchers I looked at that had HD-SDI were insane prices. The only affordable option for cams with HD-SDI (only recently) is the Canon H1 and the JVC -250 soon coming.

Making a HD swicther in the the $12,000.00 range that bypasses HDV compression and looks sweet with the Z1u and the HD100 is not daft.

Seeing that the average industrial projector still only outputs 1366 x 768, IMAG with RED is over the top. In fact RED is over the top for everything that's why I want it so bad.
 
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You might want to check out the awesome new Grass Valley Indigo at http://www.grassvalley.com/products/switchers/indigo/ , it's in the same price range of the Edirol (sub $20K, about $15000 MSRP with HD-SDI and DVI I/O, starts at $12K MSRP). Depending on your workflow and existing equipment it might make financial sense to upgrade.

The V440 is just one of those first to market products that was filling a niche nobody else was filling but was not built very future proof nor does it have a full feature set. The newer prosumer cameras and decks are moving to SDI and/or HDMI and starting to throw out Analog HD. The Indigo is worth a close look, see if it makes sense in your applications. Don't forget that you can also get some decently priced HD YUV to HD-SDI A/D converters for your current gear (about $800). HD-SDI to analog HD are also available for a little more if you do want to use RED one with the Edirol V440.
 
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so what would be an affordable device to monitor red footage in the field?

I was hoping it might have an SD output, for no other reason than you could pipe it into a CRT to accurately check colour and contrast. I have real problems using my LCD screen on the camera to gague colour and exposure.

in terms of outputs? would you need a HD CRT with SDI to be able to monitor red?
 
Last I heard, RED One was going to have an HDMI output, I would assume that a consumer HDTV with HDMI inputs (most of them nowadays) would work. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong since the specs seem to evolve daily.

There are also decent computer monitors (such as Apple Cinema Displays and Dell 2407 which is a steal at $680 BTW) that you could input to via DVI-D (easy USD$30 conversion http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/DVI-HDMI_adapters.html#mfhdmi).

If weight isn't an issue (not for field work) this CRT http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KD34XBR970&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_34to36TVs is US$999 and has an amazing picture and has dropped price significantly (I own the two previous generations). It can be properly calibrated through the service menu to track extremely close to D65 through the grayscale and remove Sony's trademark red gain (in it's consumer products) from the color decoder. Once calibrated, it's somewhat scary how close it is in performance to the USD$43,000 BVM32E1 which is their top of the line HD CRT monitor.

Of course a proper HD production monitor is optimal but also a much more expensive alternative. If you wanted to monitor on an existing SD CRT you could get an AJA D/A with built in downconversion for under USD$2,000 (not really economic but an option).

On an end note, because RED records in RAW you don't have to be that picky with the color accuracy of your field monitor since you'll be characterizing the color in post on Redcode.
 
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very true, thanks for that matthew.

I guess its just going to be getting used to a new workflow. I never trust my DVX lcd for exposure or colour. And in the field and of those suggestions you mentioned are porbably too clumsy. Currently I use a 6" sony CRT which I always take out with me when im on a shoot.

Looks like I will have to rely on the RED LCD alone for monitoring. But with histogram overlay and raw shooting, I guess that should be ok!
 
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