AG-DVX200 4K Large-Sensor Handheld Camcorder

[DLD]

... However, Barry and a few others obviously provide feedback directly to Panasonic about any real and relevant issues discussed here...

Which is basically all they need because a dozen of pros will likely cover the entire gamut of opinions ... you know, sort of like the Nielsen ratings.

At the same time, having a marketing manager scan a few of the top sites - and not just solely for the reviews of their product - wouldn't hoit either.

 

[philiplipetz]

http://www.newsshooter.com/2015/09/06/panasonic-dvx-200-review-part-3-4k-hd-frame-rates-and-codecs/

 

[ATL Media Group]

http://www.newsshooter.com/2015/09/08/panasonic-dvx-200-review-part-4-leica-lens-optical-image-stabilisation-and-autofocus/

 

[philiplipetz]

http://www.newsshooter.com/2015/09/...ling-shutter-moire-and-low-light-performance/


part-5-resolution-rolling-shutter-moire-and-low-light-performance/

I found that in UHD, noise levels are acceptable up to around 3200 ISO. You could get away with 4000, but anything over that and the image starts to get very noisy. I wouldn’t personally use it at over 2000 ISO.
In the above video you can see how the DVX 200 behaves in low light situations in UHD if you use the cameras V-log L setting. The image gets noisy very fast and anything over 1600 ISO seems to generate a lot of noise with a video feel to it.

 

[philiplipetz]

The first official footage of Panasonic's new AG-DVX200 4K camcorder. Big budget shoot. V Log. Video and BTS.

 

[Danilo Del Tufo]

 

[Barry_Green]

I found that in UHD, noise levels are acceptable up to around 3200 ISO. You could get away with 4000, but anything over that and the image starts to get very noisy. I wouldn’t personally use it at over 2000 ISO.
In the above video you can see how the DVX 200 behaves in low light situations in UHD if you use the cameras V-log L setting. The image gets noisy very fast and anything over 1600 ISO seems to generate a lot of noise with a video feel to it.

In general this corresponds with what I had said earlier; I had tested in HD and found that you could go to 4000 ISO with no problem. Mr. Allard tested in UHD and is content with up to 3200. The noise is lower in HD than in UHD due to the downconversion, so this makes sense.

What isn't mentioned here is whether the camera was in NORM SENS or HIGH SENS mode. HIGH SENS doubles the perceived ISO, and actually reduces the level of perceived noise. If he was testing in Norm Sens, then by going to High Sens you'd get twice the brightness with slightly less observed noise. The High Sens accomplishes this with more aggressive noise reduction applied, so you may lose some fine detail to the noise reduction, but if your goal is the cleanest image in the lowest light, High Sens may offer that.

 

[Phil vG]

The first official footage of Panasonic's new AG-DVX200 4K camcorder. Big budget shoot. V Log. Video and BTS.

This shouldn't be on "YouTube", it makes a lot of it just not look good. It's removing way to many pixels in the solid colored areas to create the compression, it's bad advertising IMO

 

[fastfinger]

This shouldn't be on "YouTube", it makes a lot of it just not look good. It's removing way to many pixels in the solid colored areas to create the compression, it's bad advertising IMO

4k frame grabs of the original would be nice.

 

[C100Scottie]

this looks pretty nice actually. Id love to go back to a fixed lens camera which offers great performance and great audio quality.

 

[mitch@provideo]

Here's the link to the AG-DVX200 product page on Panasonic's site. Along with those two videos posted above by philiplipetz it will be updated with additional videos and footage, specs, and info. For anyone looking for info on the camera it is definitely worth checking in on.

AG-DVX200 Link

Eric Petrie
Professional Video
epetrie@provideoandtape.com
Finance the Sony FS7 for $248 a month, $0 down
Finance the C100mkII for $158 a month, $0 down

 

[Mike Harvey]

this looks pretty nice actually. Id love to go back to a fixed lens camera which offers great performance and great audio quality.

This was kind of my thought... for a Youttube video, this actually looks pretty good.

 

[jc01108]

There's a typo in the Scene 5 text: 'useing' should be 'using'. Must be new and untested!

 

[Barry_Green]

This shouldn't be on "YouTube", it makes a lot of it just not look good.

You're right, it shouldn't be on YouTube. There's one part that I thought didn't look good, the motorcycle aerial shot, and I have just viewed it on Vimeo and it does look a lot better than the YouTube version.

But secondly -- this shouldn't be anywhere yet. This is a private video, it has not been released to the public. They may never have intended for the public to even see this on YouTube, it could have been a way to share things internally among Panasonic employees for all we know -- maybe it was for the product managers to give comment on the edit even. This footage was probably not intended to be seen on youtube and is likely intended for a reasonably big-screen release at IBC.

Which begs the question -- philiplipetz, who gave you that link?

 

[mattjeh]

The videos are on the main Panasonic dvx200 page which you get to from a google search, so they can't have been intended for private use only.

 

[philiplipetz]

Which begs the question -- philiplipetz, who gave you that link?

It was on Twitter in a post that was taken down. Other links are still on Twitter: https://twitter.com/search?src=typd&q=dvx200
https://twitter.com/robertocimatti/status/641927666564747264

 

[philiplipetz]

This was kind of my thought... for a Youttube video, this actually looks pretty good.

Except for the low light V Log shots that look horrible with extreme gain when you view it in 4K.

 

[Barry_Green]

The videos are on the main Panasonic dvx200 page which you get to from a google search, so they can't have been intended for private use only.

I was looking on the Panasonic Pro Video youtube page, which was who the video was posted by, and it was showing as a private video and was not listed among their publicly-viewable videos. But on the officially-launched DVX200 page, they're listed there now. So -- well, yeah, I guess they did post it there... I am surprised they'd link to it with the youtube compression issues that are present, but -- they did, so ...

 

[FatDaddy]

this looks pretty nice actually. Id love to go back to a fixed lens camera which offers great performance and great audio quality.

#1 to that

 

[Josh Bass]

Hey gang. Watched the new vids. A few observations:

-Camera definitely does not seem to lack for sharpness! Everything looks tack sharp to me. HOWEVER, it is a very "EX1-style" sharpness in my opinion--that is, visible lines around contrasty edges. Can the sharpening be reduced to give it a more "organic" look a la C100, etc.? I believe that heavy line sharpening is one of the icky things we associate with the "video look" we're all (mostly) trying to get away from.

-My impression from the start and even with the newest footage is colors always look undersaturated, except for reds (which are almost OVERsaturated). Anyone else see that?

-I still see the thing I complained about pages back with the skin tones. . .that weird desaturated "greyness" in random patches of the skin, especially where skin is in shade/underexposed. Look at the boating footage. . .a few shots in guy with binoculars exhibits this really badly. You can also see it later in the video when there are more medium and close shots of people.

-Also noticed in one of the evening shots in the boating footage, there is a group of caucasian folks who all appear to be wearing makeup 'cause of the way their skin tones are rendered. . .almost everyone is the exact same color and their faces are a smoothed over "blah" of the same shade of beige-y-ness. People super do NOT look that way in real life.