Affordable Fast Primes

But what about the characteristics of the lens...is it good? Is it true that zeiss primes are suppose to be one of the better primes? How does this lens compare in terms of characteristics with the zeiss....We might not need as fast as F0.95 for the motion shots. More concerned about the bokeh, flare etc...
 
LuckyStudio 13 said:
Question is how do u get anything tht is not static to focus at tht f stop ? I have enough problems with f1.4 + actor. lol
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Yeah, boy that is an issue. I just shot (stills) for a live punk show. My widest and fastest lens is a 24mm f2.8, and with an ASP-C sensor camera and I had a heck of a time keeping the frenetic action in focus. The smaller 4/3 sensor won't give that much help with that either. I think that some of the focus assist functions on the AF-100 are going to be a godsend, or at least I hope so.
 
This is my shopping list.

12mm 1.6 SLR Magic Hyper Prime

25mm 0.95 Voightlander Nokton

50mm 0.95 Noktor Hyper Prime (for dreamy footage).

Might also get a Voightlander 50mm, or 35mm to complement the 25mm. (when I have more money)

Also thining about getting a X lens incase I need a power zoom one day.


Currently I have the 14-140, 14-42, 20mm 1.7 and bunch of really old Minolta lenses (primes, zooms and macros.)
 
what adoper do i need to use Voightlander 50mm f1.1 on my af101? also what would be a better chose in terms of optical quality, sharpness, bohem, if to choose between Voightlander 50mm f1.1 and Canon fast red primes like canon 50mm f1.2, f1.0, or 85 f1.2, or 35 f1.4?

i have heard from that forum many times that Voightlander 25mm is very soft at opened iris , till its stepped down to f1.4, i wonder if its same for Voightlander 50mm? and if same will apply to canon fast red primes , as it coast 2 or 3 times as much as Voightlander so it will be kind of a despoilment if canons also need to be stepped down to somewhere like f1.5 or 1.6 in order to get the better sharpness!

regards
 
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Chaos123x said:
This is my shopping list.

12mm 1.6 SLR Magic Hyper Prime

25mm 0.95 Voightlander Nokton

50mm 0.95 Noktor Hyper Prime (for dreamy footage).

Might also get a Voightlander 50mm, or 35mm to complement the 25mm. (when I have more money)

Also thining about getting a X lens incase I need a power zoom one day.


Currently I have the 14-140, 14-42, 20mm 1.7 and bunch of really old Minolta lenses (primes, zooms and macros.)
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If you can afford the Noktor 50mm you can afford the voigtlander 50mm f1.1 which is a much better lens hands down. The Noktor is a rehoused CCTV lens from Goyo Optical.
 
The Olympus 12mm f/2 is a bit spendy for a focus-by-wire lens, but it produces some great results if you're looking for wide & fast, and it's under $800. Also the Olympus 45mm f/1.8 is another native micro4/3 lens worth looking at for under $400!
 
HDkilledFILM. said:
If you can afford the Noktor 50mm you can afford the voigtlander 50mm f1.1 which is a much better lens hands down. The Noktor is a rehoused CCTV lens from Goyo Optical.
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The Voigtlaender Nokton 50 mm is superb - and it goes extremely well together with both the 25 mm and the Voigtlaender 75 f 1.8. which is nearly the same size as the 25 er btw. 75 er seems to be the most under reported and underestimated brand new lens around.
 
I was thinking of picking up that 75mm... Only heard great things about it. The build quality on the Voigtlanders is hard to beat in their price range, worth every penny.
 
Maybe I have some test-shots with the 75er up on Vimeo end of the week. Can't promise but will post it here .... if....
 
Everything else considered...I am never sure why so many people consider that super fast lenses are such a "must have" item!

If the super fast lens also brings with it...brilliant performance at (super) wide open, excellent mechanics,build and engineering, good practical aspects such as focus throw, breathing etc as well as beautiful image characteristics ( bokeh, look) ....yes, I get that.

(I do know that some of them do have some special characteristics that maybe worth having them for apart from the super wide aperture)

But...

The ISOs available on the AF100 easily compensate for max aperture limitations. (Most situations can be photographed within the range of ISOs available and more moderate max apertures)

and...

The super fasts lenses dont seem to come in matched sets. ( A set of primes)
They seem to require stopping down to perform to best performance.
They are quite expensive relative to other options.
They can be more difficult to maintain focus with ( DOF issue).

Why such a "need" for f0.95 guys?
 
Getting shallow depth a field on micro four thirds is hard to without a really fast lenses. Sometimes makes we want to switch to canon where a 1.8 lens provides plenty of creamy bokeh. But anyway is the Noktor really that crappy of a lens? Does it matter that it was made from a $700 Goya CCTV lens? This video makes it look crazy awesome. http://vimeo.com/m/10076013 All the reviews of the 50mm 1.1 Nokton also say its a crappy lens too.
 
Who reviewed the Voightlander 50mm f1.1 as "Crappy?", I've never heard or seen that. I've heard people saying that it might be over priced but that's subjective. As far as the SLR Magic 50mm f0.95 goes, it doesn't matter if you don't think it matters. Everyone has their own shooting style, but I know your paying top dollar optics for a rehousing of a cheap CCTV lens (Around 35 bucks). Having said that Philip Bloom likes it as do a bunch of other people so to each their own. I just find that as you stop down (as shooter said above) you get better results by far with the Voigtlander. If you really want to see if a lens is any good for your shooting style a few internet videos are useless, get your hands on the lenses your thinking of buying and go shoot with them. Just my two cents-Adam
 
I'll try to find the links - but I also distinctly remember researching the Voigtlander 50mm f/1.1 for possible addition to my kit (and 25mm Voigtlander) and being turned off by all the negative reviews.
 
I checked around and Ken Rockwell doesn't like the Voigtlander 50mm f1.1 and a few people have said that the bokah is bad... I'd personally rather drop the cash on a Zeiss f1.4 planar but again, not as fast and that's my op... Heck I love my canon 50mm f1.4 fd as well which is under 100 bucks on ebay. In the end it's all subjective, lens rentals(Or any other online rental shop) or your local camera shop is the best way to find the lens which is both within your budget and which suits your shooting style. Happy hunting-Adam
 
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