AF100 Green AWB Test (on monitor and footage)
- Thread starter Phil H.
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Phil H.
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Well, that is very subjective. This is the Panasonic mojo, at default settings anyway. Personally I think it looks good. Of course, when actors are in makeup and every detail of the lighting is being controlled, it should look even better.
These were shot with one of my favorite lenses, the Nikon 17-35mm 2.8 AF-S Nikkor ED.
antonyoung
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Finally, here are the pictures that show the real issue. The monitor is hideously green. It would be nice if we could dial in the colors of the monitor. Maybe a firmware upgrade? Is this possible Jan?
Those shots are pretty much what I see on my unit too.
Shooter
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Must do a similar test with my own Nikon 17-35mm 2.8 soon but...
Heres what I see and get from my 102. (Default settings across all scene settings.)
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?236025-AF102-Scene-Setting-Tests-SCREEN-GRABS
Having the Color Chart in frame gave us a very strong reference when we specifically looked for the "green lcd" issue.
We were working with a Panny broadcast monitor as well and so had another reference point. We did not see it in the LCD and it certainly did not appear in our images.
I am sure the issue is very real for some...but why is the big question!
antonyoung
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Shooter are you saying that your unit doesn't have the color difference Phil illustrates above between the EVF and the LCD? I'd be interested in seeing shots of your LCD and EVF taken with another camera like Phil did, mine look very much like his.
Jarek Zabczynski
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Ditto.
Logan LeBlanc
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I also have the green LCD. Quite a *****. Firmware update please.
astigmatic
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have you guys noticed that the viewfinder has a minus green coating on it? That could explain why EVF is more color correct.
that wouldnt make any sense as many of us dont have the issue. But I agree with shooter and am curious to know why some and not others.
Jarek Zabczynski
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I would like a better response from Panasonic on this. The "that's normal, deal with it" attitude we seem to be getting doesn't apply if not all of us are affected. I'm a little concerned that my camera maybe be inferior to someone else's and we both paid the some price for it.
derbrocks09
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antonyoung
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Hi Noel-
If your unit doesn't exhibit this, could you take photos through the EVF and of the LCD at the same white balance like Phillip did? If better units exist, I'd like to see it.
Phil H.
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Could it be that the green tint is just too subtle for some lighting conditions for many to notice? A photograph taken of the EVF and LCD should show it, because it actually exaggerates the issue. In person, the difference between the EVF and the LCD is not as extreme as the photo shows, but it is there.
antonyoung
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I suspect the people who don't notice it aren't using the EVF, or have the EVF set to monochrome. If you spend a little time with the EVF and then take a look at the LCD it's a bit jarring. If you just use the LCD exclusively I could see that you wouldn't notice it. That, or it's possibly a regional thing? Maybe some shipments were better than others- Shooter in NZ and Noel in Australia say theirs doesn't have it, are all the people who notice it in North America?
bgundu
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness?wasRedirected=true
Kidding aside, I have sat next to people and argued over color discrepancies. Perhaps people just see certain color frequencies differently.
Kidding aside, I have sat next to people and argued over color discrepancies. Perhaps people just see certain color frequencies differently.
I'm sorry to seem stupid here, but I don't have an AF100 yet and don't quite understand some of this...
Are you saying the LCD turns green after doing a manual white balance but the EVF and recorded image don't? (I did notice that someone mentioned that the recorded image was "slightly green" but not as green as the fold-out). How can that be? What has doing a white balance got to do with the color of the LCD? That seems very weird to me.
Also, when and under what circumstances does the LCD "recover" it's correct color? Never? After an hour, a day, a week?
I know that when I first got the HPX500 the preset 5600 white balance was slightly magenta, but that was universal (LCD and recorded image, EVF is B&W). That was fixed, but had to be sent to Panasonic.
But this is different.
Are you saying the LCD turns green after doing a manual white balance but the EVF and recorded image don't? (I did notice that someone mentioned that the recorded image was "slightly green" but not as green as the fold-out). How can that be? What has doing a white balance got to do with the color of the LCD? That seems very weird to me.
Also, when and under what circumstances does the LCD "recover" it's correct color? Never? After an hour, a day, a week?
I know that when I first got the HPX500 the preset 5600 white balance was slightly magenta, but that was universal (LCD and recorded image, EVF is B&W). That was fixed, but had to be sent to Panasonic.
But this is different.
antonyoung
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Not sure exactly the original poster's green issue with footage, I think that was largely retracted after further testing and examination was it not? The issue I'm having, which is discussed here and in other threads, is that the LCD is noticeably green in comparison to the EVF. The colors displayed on the two do not match. The picture in Post #21 is a very good illustration of the effect.