Af100 and shoulder mount Tilta rig... Pretty cool

Turbodog said:
Agree. It always seems like that to me with those two grip rigs. No hands left to focus or zoom, and I want to do both because I'm using B4 lenses with a powered zoom using the Hirose cable I made. I went to a lot of trouible to get powered zoom, I want to use it!!

Plus that design means that you have to add on another EVF. Can't we use the EVF we paid for and use the AF100 in the way it was designed, rather than forcing it back to the older ENG configuration?
This looks like a more elegant solution (and I'm guessing less expensive though I can't find the price on the tilta rig anywhere).

I am not affiliated in any way with this company, and I haven't owned or used the camera ribbon so I can't vouch for their claims. But they're made right in my city, Chicago:
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You only need to hold one handle and you can focus and zoom with the other. It least that is how I work. There is also nothing stating that you have to use the handles for the rig they are sold as a separate item so if you wanted to just use the base plate you could.

I am not a fan of the built in EVF... So I always use our DP4 anyway regardless of the way I have the camera rigged. Plus with the DP4 it shows me the voltage of the unregulated feed from my battery so that I can monitor the external battery voltage from the EVF.

I also don't know that it would be possible to have a comfortable shoulder rig and look through the EVF on the back of the camera since (on the AF100) it is in the center of the camera.

As for the price I paid just over $600 including shipping.
 
connectivitygroup said:
You only need to hold one handle and you can focus and zoom with the other. It least that is how I work. There is also nothing stating that you have to use the handles for the rig they are sold as a separate item so if you wanted to just use the base plate you could.

I am not a fan of the built in EVF... So I always use our DP4 anyway regardless of the way I have the camera rigged. Plus with the DP4 it shows me the voltage of the unregulated feed from my battery so that I can monitor the external battery voltage from the EVF.

I also don't know that it would be possible to have a comfortable shoulder rig and look through the EVF on the back of the camera since (on the AF100) it is in the center of the camera.

As for the price I paid just over $600 including shipping.
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If you watch the video, they show how you set camera ribbon up with the camera mounted at the correct angle so that the EVF on the back of the camera squares up to your eye properly. For event-type shooting, I would probably only want to shoot hand-held standing up with a minimum of extra gear, although I don't see why it couldn't be used in various kneeling or seated positions. It does seem pricy for what it is, but then all accessories for these cams seem pricy for what they are.

With a B4 2/3" lens, you need the right hand in the lens handgrip to control the zoom rocker, and the left is free to focus or hold a handle. I guess if you only planned on doing the occasional zoom to change framing, then two handles might be useful. But it seems awkward to support a heavy rig with a handle that's off to one side or the other--shouldn't the support be from directly underneath for proper balance? With the handles off to the side, if you're only holding one of them, you have to cantilever the whole thing to keep it level, and that would make for unsteadiness. If you're holding both of them, then you have good support and balance, but zero hands available to focus or zoom.

I'm interested in finding a way to shoot hand-held without having to convert the camera to the old ENG configuration, with stress-free support, and I haven't seen anything besides this camera ribbon that allows that. Too bad there aren't any stores for these things so you could try out a bunch of rigs before buying. Otherwise it's a gamble, like buying a car you haven't driven.
 
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I have a few questions about the rig...is that plate that attaches to the camera a quick release?

Does that whole part of the rig come off (the quick release and it's base and that huge knob)?

Are those holes that are all over taped and threaded for 1/4 20 or 1/8 16 bolts?

Is it sturdy enough for a 15-20 lbs camera (RED Scarlet)?

thanks for your help
 
The base plate on the camera slides out of the holder but the knob/clamp is not quick release from the shoulder rig. The holes are not tapped although they probably could be. I don't think it would be a problem mounting a scarlet to it. I will be rigging an epic on it later this week so I could post pics if it works.
 
I find the EasyRig to be the BEST for "handheld" shooting. It works both on your shoulder and off. In my 25 years of shooting it is the best thing I've used short of a SteadiCam.
 
D10S said:
I find the EasyRig to be the BEST for "handheld" shooting. It works both on your shoulder and off. In my 25 years of shooting it is the best thing I've used short of a SteadiCam.
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After fooling around with multiple hand held rigs (that don't quite get the job done) I'm going to be spending some serious time at the EasyRig booth this NAB.
 
The problem with rigs like the Tilta is that it is very difficult to hold ONE handle and still focus and change exposure and still get a steady shot. Holding onto one handle and using the other hand to do these functions makes for an unsteady rig. I have a set-up just like the Tilta using Zacuto handles etc. Great rig if you don't need to change focus or exposure, which is why I rely on the EasyRig. It has been used in several major motion pictures of late.
 
Actually I have no problem pulling focus with that rig on my shoulder.
It´s well balanced and I can hold it with one hand while turning the FF with the other hand.

Frank
 
D10S said:
I find the EasyRig to be the BEST for "handheld" shooting. It works both on your shoulder and off. In my 25 years of shooting it is the best thing I've used short of a SteadiCam.
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Which EasyRig are you using?

I looked into them last year, & even bought a Turtle-X, but the zippers were frustrating, so I'm going to rent before buying again. Would like one that can handle the AF100, but also much heavier cameras.
 
I'm leaning towards the 2.5 also, likely with a longer bar

Which bar did you get?

And did you get it at 16x9 in Valencia?
 
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Where in Tilta's web site do you place an order?
Is there an online resaler for the USA?
 
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chervas said:
Where in Tilta's web site do you place an order?
Is there an online resaler for the USA?
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Don't know about reseller for the US, but I ordered mine from these guys in Canada and had it shipped to Arizona ( http://www.prophotographygear.com/b...g-p-408.html?zenid=v8k5g62gfo5rd5oh0put7j8ip3 ) unfortunately I bought the last one they had. Shipping was very affordable and it arrived quickly.

I love where the camera sits now. Much better for off-tripod work. I will hopefully get some photos up soon. I only purchased the shoulder pad and am using an old handle from my IndieSystems rig that I had.
 
D10S said:
I have the EasyRig 2.5. I also use it with my Sony F3.
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At Comic Con I see those all the time and wished I had one. Looks like a great system for long hand hold days. Its truly a dedicated system. Is it a PITS to go back onto a tripod.
 
Thanks man, I will try to find another reseller if I cannot find a way to order online.
Yes, I know want you mean about the way the camera sits. A couple months back I build a very similar rig to the Tilta. I used the shoulder mount and quick mount/release from an old Sony DXC and mounted them on parts from a Cinevate camera rig. I even install the AF100 side handle on the right rail and a Cinevate grip handle on the left rail. It is very comfy on your shoulder and the camera sits just so the Af100 flip LCD opens in front of my right eye. So I mounted a Hoodman on the LCD and it made for a very nice EVF.
 
Is the Tilta's camera plate proprietary, or does it work with any existing system?

Not the plate attached to the bottom of the shoulder rig, rather the one that attaches directly to the bottom of the camera.
 
Bern Caughey said:
Is the Tilta's camera plate proprietary, or does it work with any existing system?

Not the plate attached to the bottom of the shoulder rig, rather the one that attaches directly to the bottom of the camera.
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Manfrotto plate works. They include a plate with the system but its not great on the AF.
 
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This is my Tilta rig.

As I know, Their CS on sick leave right now, please be patient to wait for their reply.
 
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