A7s sample footage

I use both a standard adapter and a speedbooster with my a7s: the standard adapter most of the time in order to shoot 24p FF, then speedbooster whenever I need slow motion (because 60p APS-C is cleaner than 60p FF, and 120p is only-APS-C) or a faster RS (hasn't happened yet).

dmitrizigany said:
Samuel,
Please note that I'm very sensitive to that kind of small camera shake. Most people probably don't mind. And most people seem to have gotten used to it because so many film with DSLRs.
But for me the movements of small cameras and the going in and out of focus because the shallow depth of field and limited time to get it right just makes it almost unwatchable (in general, not yours in particular!)

And I know how hard it is to get right so it was no critique to your ability.
But it's something that is very difficult to avoid when using a small full frame camera. And it takes a lot of time and effort if you want to avoid it.

As I just recieved my A7s, I was reminded of this, and started to wonder if I would have been better off getting a cheaper b-cam and bought more stuff for my FS700 instead.

But the actual footage from the A7s looks great. And the look you achieved in your clip is gorgeous and I liked the people in it too!
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:)
 
Thanks. If you use the speebooster with full frame lens, do you lose resolution on still photos or are they still shot at 12MP?
 
Samuel H said:
I use both a standard adapter and a speedbooster with my a7s: the standard adapter most of the time in order to shoot 24p FF, then speedbooster whenever I need slow motion (because 60p APS-C is cleaner than 60p FF, and 120p is only-APS-C) or a faster RS (hasn't happened yet).


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can u explain why 60p apsc is cleaner than 60p FF? and would like to confirm will aps-c lose any quality compare to full frame on a7s?
havent buy a7s but planning to get it.
 
Alan Ting Judson said:
can u explain why 60p apsc is cleaner than 60p FF? and would like to confirm will aps-c lose any quality compare to full frame on a7s?
havent buy a7s but planning to get it.
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I believe that 60P in FF has to do line skipping to achieve that frame rate, while in APS-C it can read the whole crop area of the sensor and do a down scale giving better results. The APS-C mode is really good, as good as FF even at normal frame rates and is in some ways better since it has less rolling shutter.
 
Hi all!
I'm very close to finishing a spec ad I shot with the Son A7s. I'm posting the close-to-finished product here because I want everyone's opinion both on the edit and the color.
Notes: Shot all in unmodified PP7 (Slog, Sgamut). Shot all in APS-C mode. No controlled light. No time. No money. Some of the final shots were done at up to 8000 ISO!!! All grading was done in Resolve, beginning with Chapman's 3D filmic LUTS, followed by some slight color adjustments to match the shots (continually changing light, partly cloudy, with the sun going down makes for many different white balances that I didn't have time to adjust on set).
Let me know what you think! Thanks :)

https://vimeo.com/107118862
password: levis
 
dhessel said:
I believe that 60P in FF has to do line skipping to achieve that frame rate, while in APS-C it can read the whole crop area of the sensor and do a down scale giving better results. The APS-C mode is really good, as good as FF even at normal frame rates and is in some ways better since it has less rolling shutter.
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Thanks for the explanation. Hope can get the a7s
 
jurny said:
@dhessel
I decided to check your theory and I must say you are right. Great find! What I also found out is that in APSc i got rid of highlight fringing on backlit trees! I think I just stopped shooting in FF...
Here are 3x2 comparison clips you can d/l
https://mega.co.nz/#!95FgwaLa!eUfxJBSuAIDD0_F3qkui2xUf5sWwRr0iYpihQ4B37jg
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Thanks, it was not my discovery I'm just passing on information I have picked up along the way. Another thing to consider depending on what glass you use is that you can use a speedbooster in crop mode to get back to full frame and you will gain an extra stop in the process. You can get all the benefits of shooting in crop mode and yet maintain the field of view of the full frame.
 
yeah dude. I know that but speedbooster is too expensive. It's like 1/4th of a shogun. I'd rather save up for that. Speedbooster on a FF camera ;) The irony of it all hahaha
I'm using nikon 2.8 zooms so I don't feel the need to buy a speedboster. focusing with f/2.8 on FF is hard enough. I'm actually considering selling my 24-70 and replacing it with that f/4 zeiss for the oss and auto focus...
 
kennethcmerrill said:
Hi all!
I'm very close to finishing a spec ad I shot with the Son A7s. I'm posting the close-to-finished product here because I want everyone's opinion both on the edit and the color.
Notes: Shot all in unmodified PP7 (Slog, Sgamut). Shot all in APS-C mode. No controlled light. No time. No money. Some of the final shots were done at up to 8000 ISO!!! All grading was done in Resolve, beginning with Chapman's 3D filmic LUTS, followed by some slight color adjustments to match the shots (continually changing light, partly cloudy, with the sun going down makes for many different white balances that I didn't have time to adjust on set).
Let me know what you think! Thanks :)

https://vimeo.com/107118862
password: levis
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There seems to be an awfull lot of compression. Not sure what's going on there. Is that on purpose?

Anyway the whole thing works and the editing is great apart from the very first shot.
Firstly. I don't know who it is. Is it the same guy in a jacket and he just come home from work and then runs out the back door naked? Or is it the husband of the woman he is sleeping with in the house? And if that is the case, is the woman in the pickup a different woman, or the same woman who has quickly got in her car and driven around?
You see how that first shot completely changes the meanin of the peice.
A shot of the first guys face (whoever it is) as he walks up to the door would really help that. And if its the husband then the pickup either being there in the drive or not will answer my question about the woman. And maybe try cuting into the door opening shot a little later to make it snapier like the rest of the peice would be good, although it might look better as is if its the second shot. And if it is the same guy who has come home from work, maybe a shot of him walking quickly through the house taking off his jacket and loosening his shirt and tie would help.

As for the colour it seemed fine to me. maybe if the highlights were maintained a little more is my only observation of the grade.
 
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Mattoid said:
There seems to be an awfull lot of compression. Not sure what's going on there. Is that on purpose?

Anyway the whole thing works and the editing is great apart from the very first shot.
Firstly. I don't know who it is. Is it the same guy in a jacket and he just come home from work and then runs out the back door naked? Or is it the husband of the woman he is sleeping with in the house? And if that is the case, is the woman in the pickup a different woman, or the same woman who has quickly got in her car and driven around?
You see how that first shot completely changes the meanin of the peice.
A shot of the first guys face (whoever it is) as he walks up to the door would really help that. And if its the husband then the pickup either being there in the drive or not will answer my question about the woman. And maybe try cuting into the door opening shot a little later to make it snapier like the rest of the peice would be good, although it might look better as is if its the second shot. And if it is the same guy who has come home from work, maybe a shot of him walking quickly through the house taking off his jacket and loosening his shirt and tie would help.

As for the colour it seemed fine to me. maybe if the highlights were maintained a little more is my only observation of the grade.
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Thanks! I really appreciate you taking a look at it.
I'm agonizing a little over the useless ambiguity of the whole thing. The concept wasn't mine; I was hired to do the spec by a micro-managing wannabe-creative. Not an excuse, just an explanation. I could certainly have done better with the first shot or two, and it would have made a world of difference.
Hind-sight is 20/20. Now the question of whether or not I should put it on my reel...
 
Hi there,

I'm talking with a friend of mine about his next camera. He can't decide between 5D mkiii and A7s.
Among some of the things we're discussing, there's also lenses. He's got old lenses as Nikkor 24mm 2.8, OM Zuiko 50mm 1.4, OM Zuiko 28mm 3.5 and some old good stuff.
I told him that he could probably buy this adapter to mount all Canon lenses: http://is.gd/O0kRea, plus it also has a built-in 10-stop variable neutral density filter.
Now, since he's got a Canon adapter for all his old lenses and considered he told me the thing is most interested in is shooting FF, I'm wondering if the FotodioX Vizelex may work fine with his old lenses (that already have a Canon adapter each, something like this http://amzn.com/B006DWQSDM).
What do you guys think?
 
I don't like variable NDs: that's two polarizers one in front of the other, it creates some unwanted effects in terms of color and sharpness, plus it's always polarized so no reflections in skin and such, which can make people look plasticky.

And I wouldn't stack adapters if possible, the full contraption will be less accurate and you can get some major wiggle. Just get something like this or this (depending on whether he needs aperture control or not). The only reason for stacking adapters is if each lens has a different mount: then you either get an adapter for each one, or you adapt them all to something common like canon or nikon and go from there. But then you need high quality adapters (or, even better, mount replacements).
 
I use variable NDs for all sorts of R+G and like what they do very much.
You have to buy a good one - I have the Heliopan VND. There'S not always
time to fiddle with single NDs and rig + mattebox.

But I won't use this kind of adapter. It's not the best idea to put glass between
the sensor and your glass if the camera doesn't know. It another optical
element which can produce certain optical flaws.
If the camera has no built in ND, it belongs in front of your lens - not between
sensor and lens.
 
kennethcmerrill said:
Hi all!
I'm very close to finishing a spec ad I shot with the Son A7s. I'm posting the close-to-finished product here because I want everyone's opinion both on the edit and the color.
Notes: Shot all in unmodified PP7 (Slog, Sgamut). Shot all in APS-C mode. No controlled light. No time. No money. Some of the final shots were done at up to 8000 ISO!!! All grading was done in Resolve, beginning with Chapman's 3D filmic LUTS, followed by some slight color adjustments to match the shots (continually changing light, partly cloudy, with the sun going down makes for many different white balances that I didn't have time to adjust on set).
Let me know what you think! Thanks :)

https://vimeo.com/107118862
password: levis
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I like the video, but the grading is lacking. The main things are that it looks like you may have clipped your superwhites, or you are using a LUT/exposure strategy that is way less forgiving than it should be on the a7s. Also the LUT/grading you are using seems to only partially correct for sgamut. The color looks very thin and it looks a bit like the sgamut green hue is still there but just desaturated rather than corrected. I haven't used alister's LUTs but the first thing i'd look for in an slog2 LUT is correcting sgamut to a film/709 look in a pleasing way and smooth, soft clipped highlights and recovery of superwhites and you seem to be missing out on both those things. Have a look at the Impulz luts...
 
mcgeedigital said:
[video]http://vimeo.com/channels/robotvillage/106994449[/video]
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Looks beautiful. I could not find a nicely lit footage with a7s yet, most of them are utilising to much of it's low light capabilities. You were using monopod for the whole shot or some sort of a shoulder/handheld rig as well?
 
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