"A Verse Before Dying" - AF-100 Western Short
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I was completely drawn to that as well, but I assume that his butt plays an integral part in the story somewhere. You know, foreshadowing.
I think you boys are thinking of a different kind of "western"......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbsHOSbH7a4&feature=related
Paul Vicente
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I never noticed the butt.... I was more noticing how the bible looked new and unused. Also I thought the scar on the face of the bad guy was overdone in the sense that it was too obvious. An old scar would appear much lighter colored.
Notice however, that suddenly on this forum we are now picking apart the CONTENT.... It is no longer about the quality of the camera. So this is good!
Well done to this team of film makers.
groveChuck
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I thought he was ridin' into town for a standoff with the Kicker of Ass? :huh:
bgundu
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alpi69
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Are you guys serious?
The riding shots looks great. it is exactly what Sergio Leone would have done. An ass? I see a part of a person on a horse holding a book with a cross, so it´s probably a bible. That´s all. And it is shot overcrasnkled in 1080p. Nice.
The scar? When I saw the setshots and i saw the scarred guy I thought what a great cast. Later I saw someone doing make-up work on it on a photo and first then I realized it might be a fake and belpngs to the story. We don´t know what it´s from and how old it is supposed to look. Maybe it is a fresh wound he got from the biblecarrier?
Anyway, the images look great. The cam delivers
The riding shots looks great. it is exactly what Sergio Leone would have done. An ass? I see a part of a person on a horse holding a book with a cross, so it´s probably a bible. That´s all. And it is shot overcrasnkled in 1080p. Nice.
The scar? When I saw the setshots and i saw the scarred guy I thought what a great cast. Later I saw someone doing make-up work on it on a photo and first then I realized it might be a fake and belpngs to the story. We don´t know what it´s from and how old it is supposed to look. Maybe it is a fresh wound he got from the biblecarrier?
Anyway, the images look great. The cam delivers
Rolf Silber
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Information - as beauty - seems to lie in the eye of the beholder. I see a man riding to what may be a fight with a bible or a book (poetry, I assume). Okay: He brings his butt along. Necessarily.
Being European and having been an aficionado of Spaghetti Western - the real Italian Spaghetti ones not the re-imported Hollywood version - I not only accept certain sometimes different framing but expect it. Butt-wise I had no problem here....
Rolf Silber
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Fiddled around with the Voigtlander a bit.... hellish to pull focus at 0.95 / 1.1
http://www.vimeo.com/17409524
Jan_Crittenden
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However, when using the DoF calculator, if indeed you are using a 50mm cinema style lens on the AF100, and you are wanting what that 50mm would be on film, that translates to about a 40mm. Using the DoF calculators to give you an idea of which lens to use to get the DoF that you are expecting is just another reason to use one. My favorite is the PCam by David Eubanks. It has a lot of features beyond the DoF including a Preview butoon so you can get an idea of how big your subject will be in the VF based on lens and distance. Now I don't shoot for a living but I talk to a lot of people that do every week so I use this app so many times, and with the intor of this camera I have paid for it many times over by resolving questions about lensing quickly.
Best,
Jan
And sorry this isn't really relative to the thread title other than in a remote way.
I drink a buttwiser to that 
waefre
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Hmm.. Maybe forshadowing.. Or is it hindsight?
The footage does look great though, ass and all.
Matt Gottshalk
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As the "kicker of ass", i would not want to tangle with this particular preacher.
Matt Gottshalk
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Dr Freud to the "Verse" thread please.
That's right Jan. And the DOF, FOV calculators have been very revealing. The jpg examples I included earlier in the thread were shot with a 50mm on a Letus/HVX, and that's a full frame "sensor". So, as it turns out, 50mm full frame equals about 35mm Super35, which equals on the AF100....25mm. And thus, that's why the Voigtlander 25 f/.95 is selling out before it's even built.
As far as actually pulling focus at .95/1.1 with it, of course that would be a nightmare. DOF is probably paper this at that point. I would generally not use it wider than about 1.7 or so for film work.
Steve Kahn
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Not necessarily true. First off it's a 25mm so dof is naturally deeper. Secondly it will depend how far your subject is from the camera
tflak
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I just bought pCam last week and am using it on an iPad. I hesitated paying $30 because I have DoF apps I've paid far less for. However, after using it I can say it was not only well worth the money considering everything it does (including that very slick Preview feature) but I would have probably paid $30 just for its ease-of-use and flexibility as a DoF calculator alone. On the whole, it's a killer app I wouldn't be without.
I do have a question that maybe you can answer - I've always seen and therefore used a circle of confusion of 0.015 for M4/3 (GH1). But pCam has it at .00059 for the GH1, and AF100. Which is correct?
Rolf Silber
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So I shoot with a lens since two weeks that has not been build? Time-warp? Really: It's out and there.... ;-)
But you are indeed right: One would use it fully open only in rather extreme situations. I hesitate a bit though to translate things that have been - and still are - true for shots for movies for cinematic release onto film-work that is mainly directed at TV or the web.
You can get away with shallower DoF on a monitor or TV-Screen easier and it may look rather good - at times - than on a real big screen where you drown the audience in bokeh-soup.
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Jan_Crittenden
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Yes it is a 25mm, but more than focal length comes in to play as far as DoF is concerned. Iris opening, Distance to camera and if that 25mm is a angle of view eqaul to some other lens on a larger imager, you would be very surprised at how that changes what you would expect. You should ceck out Pcam as it really does a fabulous job. and the latest update has the 101 in there, why he didn't use the 100, don't know but it is all the same. I do have some questions out to David Eubanks on a few things but overall, it is a great tool.
Thanks,
Jan