bgundu
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I just picked up that lens. Great build quality and nice bokeh. Also note that when you have a full 35mm brevis/redrock/letus adapter on your HVX, that sucker is big! Not as easy to back up against the wall as will be the Af100.
"A Verse Before Dying" - AF-100 Western Short
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Duke M.
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No tool is good for every single job so you can't expect this to do everything in every situation. Just because it doesn't do the one job you want doesn't mean it isn't capable of a whole host of other things that people want.
If vista vision is what you need, go with the 5D or Letus. If cinematic DOF is what you want the AF100 will do it, as will the GH1, 7D, T2i, Red One, etc.
If cinematic DOF without moire, aliasing, and jello with proper controls for less than $5k is what you need, then you need an AF100 because there isn't anything else in that category right now.
bgundu
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As a filmmaker, you have to make decisions on how you are going to tell a story with the tools at hand. The film guys didn't just thrown in the towel when they couldn't get the wide angle they wanted. Recompose or find another way to get there. Most of the best ideas come from having limitations. Some of the most meorable scenes in cinema history was because of contraints, be it budget or technical. Speilberg with his shark in Jaws comes to mind or thank goodness Lucas didn't have the budget in Star Wars to do half of what he wanted. Forgive me if I sound a little sinical towards young filmmakers these days. I think Louis CK said it best for me:
[video]http://www.webtvhub.com/technology-wasted-on-most-spoiled-generation-funny-vid-louis-ck-on-conan/[/video]
[video]http://www.webtvhub.com/technology-wasted-on-most-spoiled-generation-funny-vid-louis-ck-on-conan/[/video]
This is so true. I'm so excited for us all.
I also sincerely appreciate the fact that you included the "right now" in your statement. We live in exciting times...and I look forward to owning my own AF100. Sony has their F3 "little brother" supposed to come out in March. We'll see what they bring. I (for one) will NOT BE WAITING for them. But the factor of competition between the "Big Boys" will no doubt bring competitors to this AF100 market. We'll see what they bring....but HOW COOL IS IT that this little bad boy is everything I've ever wanted (except RAW)....for under 5K!!!! WAHOOO!!!!!!
^EDIT: Ooops....I didn't mean to leave out RED. Who knows when? But they will eventually put some competitor in the under 20K market....and I'm sure I will be excited. I don't appreciate all of the "Red Worshipers"....but I do appreciate Red. Maybe one day I'll own one? Maybe not? ...anywho, due respect/acknowledgment.
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Well like I'd said before, I'm not a fan of the DSLRs razor thin DOF in every shot, precisely because it's not cinematic, and I find particularly that the shallow DOF between relatively distant objects in medium to wide shots really distracting in motion photography. BUT... in the jpg examples I gave above, where I like to get the camera within a few feet, and focus on a person in the foreground. That's where I'd like to be able to separate my actor from the background, but staying close. I like how it looks, and how it feels in dramatic moments. I don't feel a long lens from a distance gives me the same feeling. I feel it separates the audience more than I want, even though the subject is big. Don't get me wrong, there are indeed times I like the long lens with BG forced back, but I still want to be able to do what I did with those shots in my new AF100. Looks like I'm gonna need that 20mm 1.7, but wonder about the bokeh and feel of that lens. Maybe the Voightlander 25 f.95, if there were a way to get it without meeting some guy in LA in a dark alley at midnight.
Yes, that's an exciting lens, and really hard to come by. But I think it might be what I need. I saw some stuff Philip Bloom shot with it, and he kept it at .95 the whole time, which for me, was actually way too shallow. But I think that Voigtlander kept at about 1.4 or 2 would be exactly what I need. Still not sure what becomes of the bokeh though on a smaller sensor.
bgundu
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What you see on the GH2 will be pretty much the same I believe on the AF100 for bokeh.
Philip did stop down sometimes....
http://philipbloom.net/2010/11/27/movembergala/
Oh, and that lens. Bloody love it. Sure I was a bit too wide open at times but I couldn’t help myself…F0.95…C’mon! You would have done too!! I have decided to this is my desert island lens! Actually some of shots, the wider shots are quite stopped down, around F11 and a couple of them are at 3200 ISO…see if you can spot them! I shot at 24p and 1/50th all the time. ISO varied between 160 and 3200. I just hope when the European production model comes out that we will have 25p at 24mb/s otherwise it will be such a let down for us non US shooters as the 24p is simply awesome!
Wow, I'd only seen his piece with his mom cooking, where it was all wide open. That's exactly the lens I need. In fact, I just ran some calculations through the FOV computer, and my old Letus with the 50mm, which was my most commonly used setup for my recent film, is very near equivalent to 35mm on a Super 35 frame, which is.... almost exactly the FOV of the 25mm on the M4/3 Af100. And at great apertures. Can I buy stock in Voigtlander when I order the lens?
Justyn
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Kicker of ass.... now that's a credit I'd love to get. Reminds me of the last time I went through starbucks and my Redneck buddy orderd a big ass Americano and they delivered it with a smile....
Congrats all!
Congrats all!
Hah! I didn't notice that gottshalk got a special title....
It should also state that he is the "bringer of howitzer"
It should also state that he is the "bringer of howitzer"
Matt Gottshalk
Resident Preditor
Kicker of ass
Bringer of the Howitzer
I need new business cards.
Quite frankly, the whole damn crew was a well oiled machine.
Bringer of the Howitzer
I need new business cards.
Quite frankly, the whole damn crew was a well oiled machine.
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Team Oil.
sodotoguwangus
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Very nice trailer...
One thought -- on the second shot of the trailer, it's very hard not to focus on the guys ass as he rides the horse. I guess if it was a chick it might be acceptable, but alas...
The issue has to do with the framing -- I'd suggest re-framing the shot to include the horses head (in addition to the horse's body) instead of cutting it off at the neck.
Now I like an over-cranked shot of a cowboys ass as much as the next guy (joking, of course), but this is a distraction.
Seriously though. You guys can say I'm wrong, but, let's be honest... who here didn't look at the dude's ass -- if only for a moment?
I'm being dead serious here. It might sound like a joke, but little details like this are important, and must be considered.
Flame away.
One thought -- on the second shot of the trailer, it's very hard not to focus on the guys ass as he rides the horse. I guess if it was a chick it might be acceptable, but alas...
The issue has to do with the framing -- I'd suggest re-framing the shot to include the horses head (in addition to the horse's body) instead of cutting it off at the neck.
Now I like an over-cranked shot of a cowboys ass as much as the next guy (joking, of course), but this is a distraction.
Seriously though. You guys can say I'm wrong, but, let's be honest... who here didn't look at the dude's ass -- if only for a moment?
I'm being dead serious here. It might sound like a joke, but little details like this are important, and must be considered.
Flame away.
bgundu
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I think the focus was supposed to be on the bible and cross. I believe he is a priest meeting someone from his troubled past? I'm sure the guys took a bunch of footage of this guy riding. This just happens to be the one that ends up in this trailer. Anyway, it's all good.... in a broke-back kind of way 
I never noticed his ass.
waefre
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I was wondering if anyone else was distracted by that. All I could see was Slowmo Cowboy Butt. It was an interesting shot.