7D and Adobe Premiere CS4 workflow in detail

Lucas 7D

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Hi everyone

Its been a while since I last used premiere and now I have a 7D and CS4. I'm a bit confused how to best use CS4 with the 7D.

Can someone please detail a work flow for me and others with the same questions?

Please cover:
-Video import setting
-shooting at 60p and playback at 24p for slow motion
-best way to temporarily convert files during edit because my Quad core is playing back super choppy video.
-how to output hi def video? which setting to use as there are so many?

thank you
 
download mpegstreamclip
download dnxhd codec
convert clips with mpegstreamclip to mov dnxhd codec 1080p 23.97 10bit or 720p 59.97 10bit
open converted files in cs4
all 60p interpret footage to 23.97
 
I'm on a big learning curve with CS4 on Vista myself but I can tell you: Step 1 is to download and install the CS4.1 upgrade. Once you do that, AVCHD will be a standard preset and your use of native AVCHD files MIGHT improve...mine did on a dual core 2.4.
 
It seems like you are asking for someone to write you out a full step-by-step workflow manual. You'll probably get better response by identifying the areas you are having trouble with and asking more specific questions.

- Mikko
 
Ok call me an idiot, am fine with it. Just want to have the workflow down. Where am I screwing up?


download mpegstreamclip>> done
download dnxhd codec>> done

convert clips with mpegstreamclip to mov dnxhd codec 1080p 23.97 10bit or 720p 59.97 10bit
> am doing: export to other format, chose quicktime movie (so the extension won't change when done with my proxy)
> settings you mention 1080p 23.97 10bit
> save file
> mpegstramclip dies.....

What am I screwing up?
Please help....
 
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and im only seeing an AVID coded for download.

How does the offline workflow work exactly? Do i name the files same as originals and just replace after i finish the edit? what about the file extensions? will premiere know if one file is .mov and another .avi? or will it get confused?
 
Lucas! Were you ever enlightened as to your original questions? I have the same ones and can't find any straightforward answers online!
 
Lucas! Were you ever enlightened as to your original questions? I have the same ones and can't find any straightforward answers online!


Yes. After reading a bunch of posts and fiddling with streamclip I now have a smoother work flow.

Do this:

download mpegstreamclip
download dnxhd codec
download the newest version of quicktime or it might not work for you

Google any 3 of those if you cant find them.

convert clips with mpegstreamclip by doing the following
click File, open, and select clips you want to convert by holding ctrl and clicking.

-click FILE and EXPORT TO QUICKTIME
-from the COMPRESSION MENU select AVID DNxHD codec
-click the OPTIONS button. Once there click on the barely visible line on bottom. A menu will drop down.
-select 1080p/23.976 DNXHD 175 10 bit if you shot at 24 fps and if you want highest quality. Otherwise select any other bit rate that applies. Then click OK.
-The quality bar is default at 50%. Increase it to 100%
-Uncheck Interlaced Scaling.
-Click MAKE MOVIE

The program will connect all your clips into one long clip and it will be 3 times larger in size than what you started with.

-open converted files in premiere cs4

Once i drop the selected clips onto the timeline I like to render the whole work area. I get a very smooth playback on my Quad core 4 gig ram.

Enjoy.
 
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In MPEG Streamclip, in the list menu, is a batch feature. This will keep your clips from being rendered into one file.
 
convert clips with mpegstreamclip by doing the following
click File, open, and select clips you want to convert by holding ctrl and clicking.

-click FILE and EXPORT TO QUICKTIME
-from the COMPRESSION MENU select AVID DNxHD codec
-click the OPTIONS button. Once there click on the barely visible line on bottom. A menu will drop down.
-select 1080p/23.976 DNXHD 175 10 bit if you shot at 24 fps and if you want highest quality. Otherwise select any other bit rate that applies. Then click OK.
-The quality bar is default at 50%. Increase it to 100%
-Uncheck Interlaced Scaling.
.

Good answer. How big was your file before and after the conversion?
 
I downloaded the Avid DNX codec but cannot see it in the Pop down menu of the MPEG Streamclip!! Anyone know how to add the codec to the program?? Please Help!!
 
hey guys, i am trying to follow the conversion steps outlined for streamclip, but its a no go. it dosent recognize the .mts file type. it says i need quicktime alternative 1.81 or to buy the quicktime mpeg 2 playback. the quicktime alternative is not working. i have tried everything i can find.

i know this is a 7D thread, and i apologize in advance. these files are from a gh1. i tried looking for solutions under gh1 and premiere threads, but this is the closest thing i found. im not sure if the gh1 would make a difference vs 7D.

im editing on a PC.
premiere cs4 fully updated.
quad core
4g ram.
dual video cards sli.
 
-select 1080p/23.976 DNXHD 175 10 bit if you shot at 24 fps and if you want highest quality. Otherwise select any other bit rate that applies. Then click OK.

The program will connect all your clips into one long clip and it will be 3 times larger in size than what you started with.

-open converted files in premiere cs4

Once i drop the selected clips onto the timeline I like to render the whole work area. I get a very smooth playback on my Quad core 4 gig ram.

I'm running an Intel i7 w/9gigs ram and this runs choppy on my system. Granted I encoded mine at 1080i/29.97 DNXHD 145 8-bit, but that should run better than what you described. Let me ask you: do your files play smooth in the preview window, or just when you lay them out on the timeline and render them?
 
I've been using the native files right out of the camera in CS4, Quadcore, 8g ram.. and it works fine. Of course this first thing ive used this set up on is a 30second commercial, but i over shot the footage so instead of uncompressing a ton of files. I just look over the footage in quicktime and only import the worthwhile takes.

plays fine in preview and in timeline when rendered.

i maybe ignorant but are there any distinct advantages to converting files to an uncompressed form, other than to lighten the processor load?

Is it really worth the time spent?
 
I'm using Neoscene to convert to AVI and then edit in CS4 4.1. Is using the streamclip-DnxHD method better in some way?
 
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