35mm Adapters

WhiteWood said:
So to bring back all of my unanswered questions from before:
1.) What's the difference between a 'Vibrating' and 'Rotating' Design?
2.) What is 'Modularity'?
3.) What's the difference between a 'Hard' and a 'Soft' mount?
4.) How many MM is the lens's focal length on a DVX?
5.) Which 33MM Adapter is better when it comes to FStops?
6.) Why does my camera do this around the edges:
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1.) What's the difference between a 'Vibrating' and 'Rotating' Design?
Just google it and watch some videos on it.
2.) What is 'Modularity'?
Something do to with the glass
3.) What's the difference between a 'Hard' and a 'Soft' mount?
Im pretty sure it threads into the camera threads.
4.) How many MM is the lens's focal length on a DVX?
4.5mm to 45mm
5.) Which 33MM Adapter is better when it comes to FStops?
Letus Extreme with .5 of a stop
6.) Why does my camera do this around the edges:

Its not your camera, I think it has to do with what you are exporting out as.
 
If you're not interested in learning the basics, fine, but at least learn to do research and find answers to your own questions instead of expecting everything to be delivered to you on a silver platter. The majority of your questions were answered in the links to the two threads I provided, which were STICKIED on the 35mm adapters section.
 
I never
Huy Vu said:
If you're not interested in learning the basics, fine, but at least learn to do research and find answers to your own questions instead of expecting everything to be delivered to you on a silver platter. The majority of your questions were answered in the links to the two threads I provided, which were STICKIED on the 35mm adapters section.
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I never said I wasn't interested in learning. Please stop posting in my thread now. Thank you.
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WhiteWood said:
You just listed EVERY adapter I'm trying to decide between. LoL
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There are a bunch more adapters, than these 4.

this was the rest of what i said:
They have different looks and pros and cons. Take a look at footage on there websites. You will see the differences and then start to get attached to the adapter u like.
Did u do this? There are also tutorials and/or videos made by the makers of the adapters that answer some of your questions.

It seems to me the reason u don't know which adapter u want is because u don't know enough about them. Do a good search, don't be lazy...
 
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Okay, after reviewing all of the videos i can of all four adapters, I've concluded that:
They all look exactly the same.

So I guess what I'm stuck to asking what I've been asking from JUMP:
In YOUR opinion, which one is better and why?
 
if they all look the same then it doesnt matter which one we think is better. I also think that if they all look the same then you need to keep looking, because they are far from the same. As for anyone on here telling you which is better? Good luck. I can give you a reason for each of the major players as to why its better then the rest.

Lex- compact flip built in, half stop of light

Brevis- Canadian, cause everything Canadian is better. Especially beer and women. The adapter also loses almost no light at all and somehow seems to add light, it is modular, Dennis seems like a sweet dude.

Sgpro- Beautiful image quality ( Best in my opinion ), hard case included in the price.

Mini35- The pioneer, costs ALOT.

DIY- Amazing experience, you learn alot, cost nothing if your creative ( I made mine for 16 bucks and im willing to sell it to you for 50 )
It can also yield some great results.


But like I said before. Learn how light works before getting and adapter, especially if you plan on using it yourself. I also find that making your own adapter is an eye opening experience, lets you figure out the how and why's of adapters.
 
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WhiteWood said:
So I guess what I'm stuck to asking what I've been asking from JUMP:
In YOUR opinion, which one is better and why?
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I think the Redrock M2 is better, because it's the one that I own. But I'm sure I'd say the same about any of the other adapters if I owned something different.

But in all reality all the adapters are good. With either one you can still get great shots as long as you know what you're doing. Each one has it's own benifits and downfalls, just look at some comparison tables and decide for yourself what the most important aspect is for you. Lightloss? Bokeh? Edge to edge sharpness? Durability? Lightweight? It's all personal preference, there really isn't such thing as "the best adapter". Different adapters will suit different needs.
 
WhiteWood said:
I'm not stereotyping myself. It's true. I had a conversation with Tim Story (African American American Director of Fantastic Four's 1 & 2) on MySpace and even HE told me how hard it is to break into this industry as a black man and the paths I would have to take. I'm not about ignore reality to try and play a 'fair' game of catch up.

Lehre should try harder if he wants to be like ME. Lehre is not my aim He's just lucky and connected.

I'm watching ALL the footage I can from these adapters, they all look the same to me. So I want to know from USERS OF THEM their personal experiences with them.
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Whats the point in having all your replies in bold text?
 
zergtherobot said:
if they all look the same then it doesnt matter which one we think is better. I also think that if they all look the same then you need to keep looking, because they are far from the same. As for anyone on here telling you which is better? Good luck. I can give you a reason for each of the major players as to why its better then the rest.

Lex- compact flip built in, half stop of light

Brevis- Canadian, cause everything Canadian is better. Especially beer and women. The adapter also loses almost no light at all and somehow seems to add light, it is modular, Dennis seems like a sweet dude.

Sgpro- Beautiful image quality ( Best in my opinion ), hard case included in the price.

Mini35- The pioneer, costs ALOT.

DIY- Amazing experience, you learn alot, cost nothing if your creative ( I made mine for 16 bucks and im willing to sell it to you for 50 )
It can also yield some great results.


But like I said before. Learn how light works before getting and adapter, especially if you plan on using it yourself. I also find that making your own adapter is an eye opening experience, lets you figure out the how and why's of adapters.
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This is the exact kind of info I was looking for. What's bold is what I hold in high regards.​
 
F Stop!!??

F Stop!!??

WhiteWood said:
I didn't understand ANY of this. ​


So is 'Light Loss' another word for 'FStop'?
Which 33MM Adapter is better when it comes to FStops?

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I'm still trying to figure out how you are worried about lenses when you don't understand what F-Stop is? That is critical for everything to work correctly....
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Men... I know I haven't been on the dvxuser site for a while, but this ought to be one of most immature thread I have read in a while LOL...

_To get back to the original questions, all 35 mm adaptors in the right hands will yield very good results, so you can't go wrong. I know you don't see it, probably because your eyes don't know what to look for, but they all have a different look and can yield very different results in certain shooting situations. I have owned two 35mm adaptors, one red rock and one Brevis and rented/try several other brands on various jobs. I personally like the Brevis the best, the image is very good, it is upgradable, the light loss is minimal and it is the most compact and lightest of all 35 mm adapters. You can also swap ground glasses to achieve different look which is a big plus as well.
 
So tempted to comment on the you tube comparison rabbit trail but per your request I will stick to topic and request that you start a new thread in the lounge and link us to it...

On subject. I just got an SGpro and I am really excited about it, but even after doing months of research + going through film school, working in the industry for a bit, and using the DVX a ton, I will say that when I finally got that adapter and lens in my hand, I was quite amazed at the complexity of it as well as the commitment I had just gotten myself into. No longer could I run and gun with the camera... no longer can I just "hope for the best" in light conditions, or shoot wherever worked. What i thought I knew about shooting was completely flipped upside down.

I have had to force myself to go back to the fundamentals of filmmaking and think about things in a way that I never thought I would again. Being able to recall those very technical aspects of the camera (ie, F-stops, shutter, etc.) are so important now. And things I learned in school where I leaned over to a buddy and said good thing we don't shoot on film or this would matter, actually MATTER now.

Bottom Line Tommie... I actually admire your ambition and your willingness to learn, but a little patience and humility may indirectly increase your chances of getting some breaks out there in LA.

I know this was a bit off topic but I hope it can help you understand that buying a DOF adapter is a BIG responsibility and you are adding a huge amount of work to every shoot, a much more intense lighting plan, and will be FORCED to actually HAVE a preproduction. You are stepping into a whole new field when it comes to an adapter shoot, just make sure you know what you are getting into.
 
If you wanna got REAL quality you must using RUSSIAN dof-adapter )))
Look here - its interlaced footage - progressive shots shooting by this device just a miracle, no jokes. SGPro&Brevis - s*it :)
http://www.35mmadapter.ru/
http://35mmadapter.ru/eng/ - english version

By the way, this adapter are sale in US, but price to us are too harder.
Project is so young, site under construction. I buy this staff 3 days ago and will shoot test footages on DVX100B soon (now i cant - im in a trip)
 
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look forward to ur footage. this site really lacks essential info about it though,....light loss, details of construction, PRICE ect...and barely has good clear pics of the product. Granted its still under connstruction :) but those are essential stuff if they want people to buy.
 
Look to the contacts! Write to the mail with author and ask him all questions. Cost to Russia and US - very different :)

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I buy this adapter with rail support, round (not vibro or static, they rotate) ground glass, its support Nikon... Power - 2x AAA accu, Slick quick-mount plate, and VITACON HD lens that connect to the camera first(now i dont khow what is it =) Im really happy!
If u have a questions you can tell it to me... but use easy language :)
 
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