24p vs. 30 p, slow motion, etc.

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bunnygloves

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Hi all,

I just bought a Panasonic DVX100b and am trying to teach myself as much about it as possibly, so forgive me if I'm constantly posting questions that I'm sure have been asked a thousand times before.

I've been reading up on using 24p vs. 30p, and was wondering what the consensus here is?

I'm currently shooting a short project for someone else, that I will likely not edit and will not be transferred to film.

I've read that if you aren't at all familiar with 24p, trying to teach yourself while filming is a bad idea, and you'll get very confused. And many have said that 30p is almost as good, and poses no difficulties in editing.

But since there's very little chance that I'll end up editing this myself, should I not worry about that, and leave it to the editor to deal with editing in 24p?

Also, I'm gearing up to shoot a short scene tomorrow that I know will mostly be in slow motion. When I've shot my own amateur projects in the past, I've basically done everything in post.

But would there be an advantage to filming in slow motion with the camera? Would it look better? Can anyone tell me what settings I would use to do this, and how I would know if it was slow/fast enough?

Any help would be much, much appreciated.

Thanks!

A newbie
 
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Oops! I guess what I meant is, should I play around with shutter speed, or should I shoot how I would normally shoot and have it dealt with in post?
 
best way to get slo mo with dvx is to shoot interlaced with shutter speed of 1/120 or higher & then slow it down in post. shooting progressive will look very choppy if slowed down
 
60i with 1/120 or higher shutter, drop into a 24p timeline and slow to 40 percent (make sure you capture it seperately!!!)
 
Thanks everyone!

So, is it pretty much a given that if you're shooting slow-motion with something like the dvx, you want to shoot it interlaced and not progressive?

Because I was actually all set to shoot it in 30p, because I had been reading how 30p looks great and is comparable to 24p but easier to deal with.
 
dory_breaux said:
60i with 1/120 or higher shutter, drop into a 24p timeline and slow to 40 percent (make sure you capture it seperately!!!)
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So, if you shoot in 24p with an anamorphic lens adapter, what capture settings are the best in FCP? I always do the DV NTSC Anamorphic... could my footage look better if I capture it some other way?
 
My advice is to shoot at 30P and create your slomo in post. That way you don't paint yourself into a corner if you ever want to use your slomo segment in normal speed.
Henri
 
With 30p, the only smooth slo-mo you can get is 80%, which isn't very slow. Any other speed and it gets choppy.
 
very interesting thread; i was looking to get that slowmotion effect too.

so let's resume:

DVX100B= 60p and 1/120

which best capture settings in FCP ?

and what would be the effect to use in post to create that slowmotion effect?

did anyone try this out? please post some clips/samples

thanks
 
Slow motion can be a crutch of crap footage. If you stuff is good it will look good at full speed in 24p. And what is wrong with going resevior dogs slow mo and turning off the frame blending.
 
tsolight said:
very interesting thread; i was looking to get that slowmotion effect too.

so let's resume:

DVX100B= 60p and 1/120

which best capture settings in FCP ?

and what would be the effect to use in post to create that slowmotion effect?

did anyone try this out? please post some clips/samples

thanks
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There is no 60p with the DVX. Only 60i. You capture it as normal DV, because that's what it is.

You would slow it down to 40% in post.
 
David Jimerson said:
Huh? :huh:
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He's referring to how many movies simply slow down 24p footage into choppy slow motion. Most likely they don't have the budget for a high speed cam, decided to do it in post after it was shot, or simply don't mind the effect. Of course WE notice this, but the average movie goer probably doesn't notice or care as long as the movie itself flows well. I see a lot of movies even today that will often do this at the end of a tragic or emotional scene.
 
Very true that we see the minor details in every movie. No one will really notice unless its slowed down so much that it looks painful
 
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