Canon XF605 -- Anyone here bought and/or used one yet?

If you want to argue... actually if you are putting the camer there for days or weeks you might need the full panapoly of settings or you might not have decent semi manual which you would ichoose if it was there.

clearly camera could offer things like

ramp the iso until 6400 and then start extending the shutter angle.. but they dont

..maybe they do.. iver used auto (apart from multi month timelapse)
 
First test under very bright sun, and little promo for an organic farm. Shooting animals that moves very quickly has forced me to make a lot of panning, but it was the first time with the camera to shoot outdoors, so please sorry the sense of seasickness with panning shots. Enjoy! :-)
 
I have not shot with my Sony AX100 outside for a long while but it does have a position called auto for the ND's and I seem to recall it would recommend a ND level if not in this auto position. I seem to also recall my old Sony NX5U would also recommend a level.
 
Ron Evans said:
I have not shot with my Sony AX100 outside for a long while but it does have a position called auto for the ND's and I seem to recall it would recommend a ND level if not in this auto position. I seem to also recall my old Sony NX5U would also recommend a level.
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If auto works like it does on the AX700, then it just suggests you engage the ND, it cannot do it automatically without your help. So that is not really my definition of auto and I think Sony is being misleading with that terminology. Am I wrong, is it truly automatic on the AX100 when you choose Full Auto? The camera can go from clear to maximum ND with no intervention by the operator?
 
Auto is one of the selections for ND slider. Will try today and see if it does change and report back. Need to charge a battery to make it work !!
 
Yes, you need to switch ND manually whether camera is in manual or automatic. I was confused by the slider above the ND that says auto or manual but that is for the camera not the ND. Haven't played with it for a while since moving to the GH cameras.
 
I bought the 605 and did a side by side test with my C300ll and think the 605 is great for live event coverage, suffers a bit in low light but really not that bad. Like Doug says auto exposure should never be used when filming, maybe in a pinch use it to see what the camera recommends for exposure and then click off, always use your waveform as a light meter, in terms of your test like Morgan said try shooting shorter shots, try a little more discipline before hitting record button, check composition, that your horizons are good. I started making films when the only option was shooting film, at the time 400 ft of 16mm cost $79.00 for about 11 minutes and then you had film processing and printing or telecine cost. So before exposing film you explored your options and made sure the composition was good. When you arrive at a location and start filming move around don't film more then a couple of shots from one area, one angle, explore different angles.

Jeff Cadge
cadgeproductions.com
 
I too started with Super 8mm film in the 60's. 4 mins and took a week to wait for processing to see what had been shot. Also cost almost as much as filling the car with gas then !! Definitely was very careful as to what I took not to waste any film. I know that on one holiday in 1971 the cost of film was more than half the cost of the whole holiday.
 
Checking in here to see if others have more thoughts or experience with the 605 now that it's been out for a while. It seems to check a lot of boxes in terms of zoom range, framerate options, autofocus capabilities, and image quality. I'm not sure there's another camera on the market that covers so many bases. BUT real-world use can be another story. If people have more thoughts I'd be keen to hear them.
 
drboffa said:
Checking in here to see if others have more thoughts or experience with the 605 now that it's been out for a while. It seems to check a lot of boxes in terms of zoom range, framerate options, autofocus capabilities, and image quality. I'm not sure there's another camera on the market that covers so many bases. BUT real-world use can be another story. If people have more thoughts I'd be keen to hear them.
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I've used the 705 fairly often. Mostly for live events, but also for interviews and coverage. For events, it is hard to find fault with the 705 and the 605 seems better based on what I have seen. I just with the lens had a consistent f/2.8 over the entire range. If it did, I would have two already. That extra stop would really help and be worth the extra cost. I'm not sure why you make a camera with a relatively large 1" sensor and don't put a larger lens on it.
 
drboffa said:
Checking in here to see if others have more thoughts or experience with the 605 now that it's been out for a while. It seems to check a lot of boxes in terms of zoom range, framerate options, autofocus capabilities, and image quality. I'm not sure there's another camera on the market that covers so many bases. BUT real-world use can be another story. If people have more thoughts I'd be keen to hear them.
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we have fiddled with it for a second year at the photo show.

it seems that it is 'all is could be'
af seems to work, hole in the back is not too bad to look into on a sunny day
zoom is wide enough to operatie in a car

id buy one.. but my money seems to be coming from gripping arri alexas for now.

my chum nick, who does more corporate is very keen to dump his z6/24-240 audio mess screw on filter combo
 
the only thing is that it is quite big.

if I had a video camera it would be for short 'social' takes of me gripping an arri alexa, it would need to be 'near pocketable' and the 605 is not that.. the new xa75 (?) is pockey size and mass.

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this all comes from someone looking to lose the ex1.. which the 605 would be an excellent repacement for
 
Thanks for the responses both of you.

I'm currently very, very happy with my FX6 (and don't imagine getting rid of it anytime soon) but there is something tempting about an "all-in-one" package like the 605, maybe to replace my Fs5 and some of the associated lenses. The size doesn't bother me. Mostly I'm intrigued by being able to cover a range of scenarios without changing lenses, which can be very helpful. I occasionally shoot some content with a wildlife research group, and the ideal lens would cover everything from wide to extreme-telephoto.

I do worry about losing some low-light performance. Also I'm totally hooked by the Sony variable ND.
 
drboffa said:
Thanks for the responses both of you.

I'm currently very, very happy with my FX6 (and don't imagine getting rid of it anytime soon) but there is something tempting about an "all-in-one" package like the 605, maybe to replace my Fs5 and some of the associated lenses. The size doesn't bother me. Mostly I'm intrigued by being able to cover a range of scenarios without changing lenses, which can be very helpful. I occasionally shoot some content with a wildlife research group, and the ideal lens would cover everything from wide to extreme-telephoto.

I do worry about losing some low-light performance. Also I'm totally hooked by the Sony variable ND.
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You just made the case for the Z280, which beats the XF605 and XF705 on each of the things you have said are important to you. Plus you would stay in the Sony ecosystem with the same codecs, CB, etc. MY Z280 is a great companion to my FX6.
 
You are very correct, Doug—and the Z280 has been tempting me for a while now. Not having to switch to another style of battery alone is a huge perk...

There are two things that give me slight pause with the Z280: the lack of real slow-motion (120p) and questionable AF. The touch focus and great Face/Eye AF of the FX6 have really spoiled me as much as the eND has. But maybe you can speak to either of those points.

Ah, one more hesitation: I'd need to invest in a new media ecosystem (SxS cards/reader).
 
The thing about working with a 1/2" sensor is that the AF doesn't have to be that great. I can't imagine that it would be a dealbreaker as long as the AF doesn't have a hunting problem.
 
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