Canon XF605 -- Anyone here bought and/or used one yet?

ive used it at a show.

I thought it looked to be very very good for many reasons.

the downside is that it is big - a video camera. like an ex1 not like a handy cam.. xf405

It struck me as absolutely to buy if you inhabit that .'need a video cam' world. And to consider buying if wide open 1in could maybe replace the horror of s35 and poorly ranged zooms.
 
I don't know if you have seen it but there is a fairly solid look at the 605 below on one of CVP's videos. Overall it has a fair bit to offer. The only real negative comment made was it gets a bit noisy when the light gets low and the gain goes up but then one has to expect that with a 1" sensor that runs down to F/4.5 at the long end of a 15 x lens. As MM says if you need a "video" camera for certain event work, live entertainment or sports coverage I think it has to pretty high on the consider list.

If you don't need 4K for that sort of work there's plenty around in good very well priced ENG type kit that fits the bill quite well. I sold my 2/3" cameras but still need a camera for that sort of work and so still keep one three-chip 1/2" HD camera for that express reason. A Sony PMW-300 which with its latest firmware can record XAVC-I and L. Running an F/1.6 or F/1.8 B4 18-22 x lens It absolutely kills my FS7 for low light coverage when a long lens is required.

Chris Young

 
Its better than a video camera!

there's plenty around in good very well priced ENG type kit that fits the bill quite well

I dont think this is the case.. every handycam before this one (maybe not 705) had a critical flaw of varying nature. To me all 2/3 cams had a critical flaw.. mass.

After handling cameras for 1/4 of a decade I can say this camera crosses a line from 'critically flawed' to 'usable' and that is a big deal.

(it is a binary world.. 'usable for work' or 'not usable for work')

Id wager 80% of work being done on fs7, fx6 (and that is a lot of work) would be better done with this.

I remember a couple of summers ago seeing a kid with a (production company provided) fs7 and 24-105 and seeing that he could not get a comfy hold, didnt have the tele he needed and still somehow thought he was cool.

I knew he needed a 605 (not that it excisted)

XF605 is so good that S35 and vista should go back to being drama only formats.
 
that video says it all in the first 10 seconds.

'there are a lot of awesom cameras on the market' and then cuts to four shots of unasable cr_ap like the 'cant see in the sun' C70 or any 'no audio' dslrs

the 605 beats all the half way solutions.
 
Much to be said for the fully contained form factor… started on the PD150 and HVX200. Was interested in the Panasonic DVX200, then disinterested after using it. Similarly the Sony Z150.

Used the 605 on a recent “String Cheese Incident” show… handled concert lighting ok, didn’t AF well when the LEDs got too colored but otherwise single touch was good, zoomed nice n slow, good range from middle of house… sucked much less than the aforementioned 2, in my dubious opinion.

No clients have asked me to shoot on one yet, but if it becomes a thing, I’m happy to return to the weeNG form factor.
 
"it gets a bit noisy when the light gets low and the gain goes up but then one has to expect that with a 1" sensor that runs down to F/4.5 at the long end of a 15 x lens"
Is there any full-package camera like this that compromises some of the zoom range for better low light and shallower DOF? With a built-in extender for emergencies maybe? Even shooting news these days the most common request I get in terms of style is "cinematic".

"Id wager 80% of work being done on fs7, fx6 (and that is a lot of work) would be better done with this."
I absolutely agree, I'd also bet that 80% of that work doesn't require getting a medium-close up of the speaker from the back of a conference room, so would benefit from a larger sensor.

Surely an 'ENG on the streets, Cine between the sheets' camera could find a market. Or maybe it's been tried and I missed it.
 
Therer is no camera yu have missed. Maybe this is a comment for 'state' of the industry thread but clients seem to accept what is coming from (and the shortfalls of) the 'in vogue' camera. It seems that the client desire for wide introducer Mid and ECU of the action sequences is not so big any more - clients dont demand the sequences I was taught by the 2010 bbc to shoot.

ergo no massive need for cameras of this type.

once again last week I was following some very inconsistent kids on 'a forest adventure' with my c200 15-85 70-200 and I was well off the pace.. the 605 would have been far better
 
I know it's heresy, but on fast shoots I've been known to flog Sony's superzoom 24-240 on the large sensor cameras... more than sensitive enough that f6.3 works even in the dark, 10x zoom, and large sensor so it's "cinematic...." ...even if it's not much different from what a weeNG camera would capture, aesthetically. Really liked the ancient 18-200 on the FS5/7, too, but it was way less forgiving in the dark with those combos.
 
Sorry for a silly question (probably), but I'd like to know if the Sony ECM-MS2 mic fits the XF605's the mic holder. It was compatible with C200. Thanks and have a great day!
Thanks! :)
 
This message is about Canon XF605 users: When the camera is set full auto, it seems (just two short tests made with the camera arrived yesterday) that ND filters didn't engage, maybe it's my eye or FULL AUTO setup disengages the use of ND filter? Thanks!
 
If the NDs are mechanical, any software automation is not going to engage them.

Sony's electronic ND is...electronic.

Usually the recommended filter strength will blink on the screen prompting you to change them yourself.
 
NorBro said:
Sony's electronic ND is...electronic.
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That is only partially true. Yes, it is possible to allow the camera to vary the intensity of the variable ND filter electronically, but the switch to turn it on in the first place is mechanical and requires the operator to engage it. Also, if the camera is in the Preset ND mode the camera cannot change the ND filter at all.
 
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Was that the longer way to still say it's electronic? lol

No matter how you engage it or operate it, it's electronic ND.

It's assumed you're going to turn the eND on based on the question if you'd like it to automatically behave for you (as he inquired).
 
NorBro said:
Was that the longer way to still say it's electronic? lol

No matter how you engage it or operate it, it's electronic ND.

It's assumed you're going to turn the eND on based on the question if you'd like it to automatically behave for you (as he inquired).
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No, it is not electronic. Read my post again. The camera cannot engage the ND unless the operator does it manually. THAT is not electronic. If you pickup a Sony camera and want to use Full Auto, no ND will be used by the camera unless YOU engage the ND filter yourself.
 
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to throw a little more fog into the clear vision..

my c200 has 'electronic' nd

yes you have to switch it to increments, fixed and i very much doubt it is any way automatic..

but you can changing remotely via the ipad app.. it must therefore be being moved electronically (unlike my older fs7, ex1, et which are pure manual)
 
Doug Jensen said:
No, it is not electronic. Read my post again. The camera cannot engage the ND unless the operator does it manually. THAT is not electronic. If you pickup a Sony camera and want to use Full Auto, no ND will be used by the camera unless YOU engage the ND filter yourself.
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Semantics, Doug. I’m already skipping to the part where he has engaged ND and is expecting it to work automatically, if he wants it to work that way by itself.

No matter what you do on the Canon, it will not work automatically by itself.

That is the difference. You have the option of one working automatically if you needed it to while you have to keep pressing a button/switch on the other.
 
You can call it semantics if you want, but that doesn't make it so.

The bigger question that needs to be addressed is, why the hell is he using Full Auto in the first place? Who cares if ND's kick in or not? There is never any excuse to use Full Auto on any camera. Never. That is the issue that ought to be dealt with. :)
 
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