The Canon R5C Owners Club

Ron777 said:
This is just a brief followup to the prior post in re Canon's DM-E1D stereo microphone:
For recording ambient sounds it works OK, although the dead cat that comes with the mike does not do a very good job of rejecting the noise of even slightest breeze. The shotgun pattern does not appear to be very effective, as there is very little apparent rejection of sound coming from behind or the sides of the mic. The window for a return has since passed, so I will be keeping it for ambient recording, but for anything else the Tascam adapter plus the Rode NTG5 will be the choice.
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is it worth the 420€ over the 50€ of a Deity V-Mic D4 MINI? The Deity is quite okay for recording ambient sound.
 
Hello Clermond,
I have no experience with the Deity mic, but there are some obvious differences:
1. The Canon mic integrates with the R5c's hot shoe, so, no cables.
2. " can be set to run as a shotgun with varying angles from within the camera's settings page.
Aside from those differences—that may or may not be of importance for your work—I cannot comment on audio quality differences.
What I will say, is that the Canon mic tends to pick up camera noise from handling, and is the reason that I more frequently use the Tascam XLR adapter with a Rode NTG 5. It is a more costly approach, but considerably more effective. One added advantage of the Tascam, is that it runs on its own power source/batteries and should not deplete the camera's already taxed battery.

Regards,
Ron
 
Out of curiosity, do you know if mics like this that send a digital signal through the hot shoe sound as good as mics that send a signal through a 3.5mm cable? I was listening to reviews of some of the Sony hot shoe mics recently, and it seemed to me that they all sounded better when they were connected via 3.5mm cable rather than "multi-interface" shoe or whatever it's called
 
That is an interesting question. Since most microphones that connect via a 3.5mm jack are consumer grade, I would have suspected the opposite of what you have suggested, and the observation that you'd described might be more of a camera specific issue. I have used, and continue to use, professional, XLR connected microphones via camera specific adapters on a Panasonic S1h and now the Canon R5c, and have used those same microphones on my Canon C300 MK III, C500 and have not noticed any difference in their sound quality, and, aside from the C300,500 that have their own XLR connectors, those adapters are mounted to the respective camera's hot shoes.
Hope that answers your question.
Regards,
Ron
 
Regarding the Tascam XLR adapter, I purchased one and then sent it back. It has a few anomalies that made it not worth the price as far as my needs. First, it needs batteries to function properly on the R5C which adds to its already considerable weight. Second, the limiters didn't work for me. Don't know why. Third, it is poorly integrated into the audio menu system just as Ron777 has stated.

For people who need phantom powered XLR on the R5C, it might make sense. But for me, the R5C is mostly going to be a gimbal cam, so I wasn't in desperate need of an XLR module. I've also found that the R5C has acceptable audio quality when I run a wireless hop directly to the 3.5mm port. I also have a MixpreD that I can use with the 3.5mm port, and the MixpreD seems to have comparable audio quality to the Tascam XLR module. I was concerned that I might be able to hear the R5C preamp hiss while using the MixpreD, but the built in preamps aren't very noticeable as long as the mic level is set to around 17. 17 seems to be the approximate minimum setting that allows clipping of the digital converter without first clipping and distortion of the analog preamp.
 
Hello,
I wonder if the Tascam module that you'd returned had been defective, since the limiters on my unit seem to work, perhaps not as effectively as my Sound Devices 888, but good enough for my purposes? That said, the Mix pre offerings have been quite good and lightweight. I just wish that Canon would address the internal microphone issue, for while it is relatively easy to delete the tracks in post, it is a genuine annoyance that we should not have to deal with.
Regards,
Ron
 
Ty Harper said:
Hey all, I'm a new owner of a R5C and wondering whether anyone knows whether something like this USB-C magnetic connector might work? Seems like a potentially great option to address the concerns around the wear and tear of these ports: https://www.amazon.ca/Ansbell-Magnetic-Adapter-Transfer-Compatible/dp/B0831KYRD2
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It doesn't looks the most secure solution, but I guess you'll have the battery in the camera as a fallback in case you knock the cable off. Might be worth a go.
 
Ty Harper said:
Hey all, I'm a new owner of a R5C and wondering whether anyone knows whether something like this USB-C magnetic connector might work? Seems like a potentially great option to address the concerns around the wear and tear of these ports: https://www.amazon.ca/Ansbell-Magnet.../dp/B0831KYRD2
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I personally would stay away from such devices and stick with a traditional locking mechanism. I used one of these magnetic USB-C cables on my MacBook Pro a few years ago and it completely fried the Mac's power supply and it had to be replaced. These things can be dangerous and finicky, akin to SDI cables if not properly connected (look at the negative reviews on Amazon). I admit it's convenient, but it's not worth the potential problems it could cost you. Just my two cents. I felt it was so important to post this that I emailed the webmaster to enable my posting privileges (long time lurker and R5 C owner).
 
Jeffy2k said:
I personally would stay away from such devices and stick with a traditional locking mechanism. I used one of these magnetic USB-C cables on my MacBook Pro a few years ago and it completely fried the Mac's power supply and it had to be replaced. These things can be dangerous and finicky, akin to SDI cables if not properly connected (look at the negative reviews on Amazon). I admit it's convenient, but it's not worth the potential problems it could cost you. Just my two cents. I felt it was so important to post this that I emailed the webmaster to enable my posting privileges (long time lurker and R5 C owner).
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Much appreciated! And I figured as much - just wanted to hear some first hand accounts. Thanks again!
 
Liam Hall said:
I need to upgrade my Ronin-S, what gimbals are folks currently using with their R5Cs?
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RS2 it’s fantastic and even better with the Tilta ring
I thought about selling it and getting the new RS3 Pro but the benefits are not enough for time consuming selling
 
Ron777 said:
Hello,
I wonder if the Tascam module that you'd returned had been defective, since the limiters on my unit seem to work, perhaps not as effectively as my Sound Devices 888, but good enough for my purposes? That said, the Mix pre offerings have been quite good and lightweight. I just wish that Canon would address the internal microphone issue, for while it is relatively easy to delete the tracks in post, it is a genuine annoyance that we should not have to deal with.
Regards,
Ron
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It is very possible it was defective, but neither XLR1 or XLR2 had working limiters. I never tried the Tascam with batteries, so it may have been a power issue. Either way, it wasn't much lighter than my MixPre and it had more limited functionality so it didn't make sense to keep it.
 
I have been using the Crane 2S with the R5C. it is not fully compatible. You can start/stop recording and control the focus motor with AF lenses. If you try to control the aperture or iso, it does not work and the camera will usually crash and need to have the battery pulled.
 
cpreston said:
It is very possible it was defective, but neither XLR1 or XLR2 had working limiters. I never tried the Tascam with batteries, so it may have been a power issue. Either way, it wasn't much lighter than my MixPre and it had more limited functionality so it didn't make sense to keep it.
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That is interesting. I have never used the Tascam adapter without batteries. But in regards to the Tascam vs the mix pre, while the Tascam attaches to the camera via the hot shoe, how do you mount the mix pre? I own several Sound Devices preamps, the latest being the '888', but they get slung from a shoulder in a carry case, and that results in dangling cable/s that invariably get caught on something.
 
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