The Canon R5C Owners Club
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Regnis
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The R5 C is marketed as the ultimate hybrid camera and therefore the reason we picked it up. The tascam is a perfect edition as a lot of our doc style interviews involve two people. During presentations or trainings we will often have two people lav'd up while we move around - hence the reason i'm asking about a cage setup
We already have the R6. A lot of our photography is event or wedding based and so we run two bodies.
We already have the R6. A lot of our photography is event or wedding based and so we run two bodies.
Liam Hall
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Side handles are the solution you are after.
Clermond
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I found side handles with a flip screen not the best solution neither is it handy for touch AF on the screen. I'd rather figure out a solution without the Tascam chunk when moving around. My 2ct and YMMV
Liam Hall
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Oh, I agree. I have no intention of using the Tascam. Looks like an accident waiting to happen.
CANON R5C POWER CONSUMPTION
Hey there, just wanted to post this here for reference, in case anyone is searching for this information. Another R5C owner just tested the power draw with his multimeter on his R5C and compared it to his R5. He said in photo mode, at idle, it draws around 3W. And in video mode, it idles around 7-10 watts (full frame mode with the fan at low). Then he tested his regular R5, and said it idles at around 3-4 watts in photo mode, depending on the lens and settings. So the R5C is pretty much identical to the R5 with its power consumption when in photo mode.
Hey there, just wanted to post this here for reference, in case anyone is searching for this information. Another R5C owner just tested the power draw with his multimeter on his R5C and compared it to his R5. He said in photo mode, at idle, it draws around 3W. And in video mode, it idles around 7-10 watts (full frame mode with the fan at low). Then he tested his regular R5, and said it idles at around 3-4 watts in photo mode, depending on the lens and settings. So the R5C is pretty much identical to the R5 with its power consumption when in photo mode.
Liam Hall
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Have you updated to the latest versions of Lightroom and Camera RAW? They only came out this week.
AndreeOnline
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Alright. Got my R5C yesterday. The following is based on a few years shooting with a Canon 1Dx mkII.
First impression unpacking the camera was probably: "Oh, light. That's nice!"
Immediately followed by a flashback to circa 2004.
I remember when I wanted to make the jump from... I think it was a Canon PowerShot G2 to a "real" camera. And by real camera I mean I went to the store to buy the international version (300D) of the Canon Rebel. =)
I didn't want to spend too much and thought I knew what I was looking for. But holding the 300D in my hands I was kind of scratching my chin. Next to it was a Canon 20D. I picked that one up, and I don't think I touched the 300D again.
Then followed a few years of: 20D, 5D mkII, 5D mkIII (and C100) until I was in a shop and picked up the 1Dx just to hold it. Same thing again: THIS is the way it's meant to feel, followed by a few years with 1Dc (and XC-10), then 1Dx mkII for several years.
Holding the R5C, I'm back to that 300D and it's a bit of a let down. What happened here? This is not even a 5D sized camera, it's in the Rebel category. For the record, I have normal hands—not small and not large. The grip feels only slightly bigger than that of the XC-10.
It's a proper camera with everything scaled down a bit. As a consequence, everything on the camera is too small. I imagine this camera can be a good fit for women, though. Nothing wrong with that: it's half of the population. But for me it will take some serious "getting used to", and we will see if that works out.
The mobile phone business was "saved" by the iPhone style devices where the screen now dictates size. Otherwise people would run around trying to use postage stamp size phones by now. They just got smaller and smaller, way past usable size for no good reason at all....
In preparation of getting the camera, I unfortunately got rid of my 1Dx mkII and Pocket 6K. I really wish I had them now to make proper comparisons of both photo and video. Oh, well.
While I have grabbed a few photos and videos, I will now have to spend quite a bit of time getting used to the layout and functions of the camera, since it's a bit different from the others I had. This is pretty frustrating, but it has nothing to do with the camera. There are also quite a few nice support features here that, once I've mapped them to a button and programmed into muscle memory, I'll be about ready to really evaluate things.
I have absolutely ZERO idea how reviewers on YouTube manage to test so many cameras in what seems to be a short period of time...
First impression unpacking the camera was probably: "Oh, light. That's nice!"
Immediately followed by a flashback to circa 2004.
I remember when I wanted to make the jump from... I think it was a Canon PowerShot G2 to a "real" camera. And by real camera I mean I went to the store to buy the international version (300D) of the Canon Rebel. =)
I didn't want to spend too much and thought I knew what I was looking for. But holding the 300D in my hands I was kind of scratching my chin. Next to it was a Canon 20D. I picked that one up, and I don't think I touched the 300D again.
Then followed a few years of: 20D, 5D mkII, 5D mkIII (and C100) until I was in a shop and picked up the 1Dx just to hold it. Same thing again: THIS is the way it's meant to feel, followed by a few years with 1Dc (and XC-10), then 1Dx mkII for several years.
Holding the R5C, I'm back to that 300D and it's a bit of a let down. What happened here? This is not even a 5D sized camera, it's in the Rebel category. For the record, I have normal hands—not small and not large. The grip feels only slightly bigger than that of the XC-10.
It's a proper camera with everything scaled down a bit. As a consequence, everything on the camera is too small. I imagine this camera can be a good fit for women, though. Nothing wrong with that: it's half of the population. But for me it will take some serious "getting used to", and we will see if that works out.
The mobile phone business was "saved" by the iPhone style devices where the screen now dictates size. Otherwise people would run around trying to use postage stamp size phones by now. They just got smaller and smaller, way past usable size for no good reason at all....
In preparation of getting the camera, I unfortunately got rid of my 1Dx mkII and Pocket 6K. I really wish I had them now to make proper comparisons of both photo and video. Oh, well.
While I have grabbed a few photos and videos, I will now have to spend quite a bit of time getting used to the layout and functions of the camera, since it's a bit different from the others I had. This is pretty frustrating, but it has nothing to do with the camera. There are also quite a few nice support features here that, once I've mapped them to a button and programmed into muscle memory, I'll be about ready to really evaluate things.
I have absolutely ZERO idea how reviewers on YouTube manage to test so many cameras in what seems to be a short period of time...
That's funny... because the grip on the R5 (and I'd assume the R5C since they're the same except for the fatter rear end) is actually deeper than the 5D Mark IV. It does look like it's SLIGHTLY less wide though. I put the vertical grip on my R5 which makes it a much chunkier body in general.
As a C300 MK III user, and having been accustomed to the Fuji GFX100 for stills, the R5c out of the box felt too small and light, a deja vu from my Sony A7rIII days. But after installing the much needed battery grip my impression has changed. The grip makes all the difference, both from the perspective of ergonomics, as well as the extra weight I find necessary for stabilization in hand. As for the Tascam CA-XLR2d, I do not find it at all clumsy. It mounts securely to the R5c's multifunction shoe, and holds a short shotgun—like the Rode NTG-5—without issue. But, then again, I prefer not to use a cage that might impede its use. As for 8k 60 power, I am using an Anker 87watt Elite III PD power bank that I slide into a front pocket on my photographer's vest, but that said, I am shooting mostly 4k that does not necessarily require the PD supply.
AndreeOnline
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Thanks for the measurements—interesting. The difference doesn't seem that big in the pictures. My reservation is that I've been using the full bodied 1Dx mkII for many years and may have remembered the 5D series as bigger than they were. But the feeling might also not be limited to just the grip. It's the whole camera that is small-ish, which is also pretty clear from your images.
Since I'm very used to the larger body size and the R5C drains batteries in video mode, I might well pick up a grip. As Ron777 mentions it also helps with balance.
I do have most of the lenses I need in EF mount and I was sure the Drop In ND-filter was a great solution, but now I'm leaning to go RF over time and just keep using my 82mm fixed NDs that I'm used to. Especially the 70-200 seems very compact and easy to fit in a bag.
Clermond
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it's easy to add some weight but can't make a chunk smaller and lighter 
I had something similar with my previous S1 and I was additionally inspired by Caleb Pike:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1i-DC5JkME
I don't need handles and I didn't mount a cheese plate on the battery adapter. The
rod clap fits on the adapter fine. You have to watch out with the R5c because the
release button of the battery will touch the display. That's why I turned it battery first.
The solution with the dummy battery powers all codecs except 8K60p RAW which
I didn't use so far.
I'm pretty happy with the set. I only had to buy the smallrig half cage, the Nitze battery plate
and the Deity mini micro for scratch audio. The whole set weighs 4.1kg and I came through
a day with two 98W batteries.
you also could save some weight with a lighter monitor.
With the weight of the battery on the back it balances much better on a tripod.
I had something similar with my previous S1 and I was additionally inspired by Caleb Pike:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1i-DC5JkME
I don't need handles and I didn't mount a cheese plate on the battery adapter. The
rod clap fits on the adapter fine. You have to watch out with the R5c because the
release button of the battery will touch the display. That's why I turned it battery first.
The solution with the dummy battery powers all codecs except 8K60p RAW which
I didn't use so far.
I'm pretty happy with the set. I only had to buy the smallrig half cage, the Nitze battery plate
and the Deity mini micro for scratch audio. The whole set weighs 4.1kg and I came through
a day with two 98W batteries.
you also could save some weight with a lighter monitor.
With the weight of the battery on the back it balances much better on a tripod.
I've been using the R5c for several weeks with EF, OIS lenses and the Canon Variable ND EF-RF adapter. And while I had purchased a Canon EF 24-70mm F/2.8 lens for my C300 MK III, it does not have OIS, which I have found to be a major downside for video not performed on a tripod. The R5c begs for handheld or monopod use, and that's where OIS shines with this camera. To that end, I'd ordered and received a new Canon RF 24-70mm F/2.8 IS lens, as well as a Schneider 82mm variable ND filter. To be honest, it is much easier to use the variable filter associated with the adapter, than the screw-in variety. If you do mostly studio or indoor work the fixed ND's may be all that you will need, but outdoors, in bright sunlight, with the R5c set to one of its native ISO's, I find a variable ND to be essential.
I found the setup described by Mr. Clermond to be intriguing, but for myself, the major advantage of the R5c is not its 8k capability but, rather, its portability. Adding a monitor—most of which are fairly useless in bright sunlight—a cage, V-mount or Gold Mount battery, and more, serves to detract from it portability advantage. But I already own and use several larger Cine cameras, and I can see how many people will see the R5c as an affordable means of entering the world of semi or professional video in a less costly manner.
Clermond
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the R5c is my B-Cam to the C300iii
There are many 2000+nits monitors that are useable in bright light. I was very concerned by the lack of IBIS but with the RF 24-70/2.8 I didn't see a difference to the R5 (C-cam and stills)
You have to be very conscious of the downsides of vari NDs. They are just two polarizers and the bring up all issues of polarizers with layered glass, plexi. etc..
NiSi true color Vari ND whichis one of the best Vari NDs
Tiffen Firecrest 4x4 ND 0.9
Like yourself, the R5c is the 'B' cam to my C300 Mk III, and due to the lack of IBIS I have made certain that with one exception, all of my lenses have OIS. I have found OIS to be just as, if not more effective than IBIS for video work, while it negates the issue of edge flutter sometimes seen with IBIS in video. I am located in South Florida—think, sub-tropics— where the sun is intense and bright, and where even my Black Magic Video Assist 7" 12G is not bright enough for reasonable manual focus, ergo, my statement about LCD devices with outdoor work. But that said, I find that for my use, the R5c will be operated either handheld, or atop a video fluid head mounted to a monopod, in much the same way that I shoot with the Mk III when outdoors. And as such, I try to keep the setup as light and as uncomplicated as possible, which means, no cage, no on camera monitor, etc. If I am required to move indoors to, for example, a studio, then out comes, in addition, the C300 MK III, a monitor on its own stand, as well as a Sound Devices 833 recorder, while the EF/RF lenses are most likely replaced with Cine lenses and a focus puller.
As for ND filters, the Schneider True Match filter referenced seems fairly neutral as far as color casts are concerned, but I am still in the testing phase. However, I appreciate your ND filter recommendations, and if the Schneider does not hold up I will give one of them a try.
As for ND filters, the Schneider True Match filter referenced seems fairly neutral as far as color casts are concerned, but I am still in the testing phase. However, I appreciate your ND filter recommendations, and if the Schneider does not hold up I will give one of them a try.
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This is a followup in re the Schneider 82mm True Match variable ND filter for the Canon RF 24-70mm F/2.8 IS mounted on a Canon R5c.
Frequent use of the above combination has not yielded any obvious color shift, or serious vignetting, assuming one does not venture into the extremes of this filter, but given the filter's range, I cannot imagine ever requiring the 11.5 stops max offered by the Schneider. It will remain a permanent fixture on my lens for outdoor work.
Frequent use of the above combination has not yielded any obvious color shift, or serious vignetting, assuming one does not venture into the extremes of this filter, but given the filter's range, I cannot imagine ever requiring the 11.5 stops max offered by the Schneider. It will remain a permanent fixture on my lens for outdoor work.
AndreeOnline
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On that note: anytime anyone here wants to get a motley crew together and take a road trip to visit every manufacturer of vari-nd filters that offers a 'useful range' of maybe 6 stops and in addition an 'artistic range' that includes heavy color casts and X-patters, with the two ranges separated by nothing but it's-in-the-wrist-feel and lack of markings—please let me know.
Allow for a minimum of 4 weeks to arrange travel plans, a de-branded anonymous van and an assortment of pitch forks, lanterns and torches.
I'd really love to be in a design meeting for one of those filters. Just once.
It would be nice if they could offer click stops for the variable ND filters. The filter invariably gets jostled moving in and out of a camera bag, and that requires constant attention to where the setting has been moved to. It's not a real roadblock, but it is a nuisance.