5DII DOES 1080P footage!!!!!!

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Kholi said:
I'm not saying you can't make a good video-looking masterpiece. Go check that Indiana Jones fan film. It's 30p...

Just be prepared to answer questions. Namely this one: why does it look like a soap opera, though?
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You know what? I'm glad this ****er shoots 30p rather than 24p.

I want to have as little in common as possible with the type of filmmaker that would give a **** about that ****.
 
ando said:
stellar my a**
the camera doesn't move and they don't look like 1080p at all. you have to resize to 720p just like you have to resize to standard with d90 to make it sharp
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Relative to a D90 the 5D's video looks amazing. That same clip shot with the D90 would wobble/jello/skew like a mofo... Look at the Camry's round fog lights, they stay round even when the car pans to the edge of the frame.
 
The stuff from Canon looks pretty amazing indeed and I am not even going to buy the camera. Can't compare to the D90 early samples. And I am sure it won't compare to the stuff I or most other owners have shot with the D90, which as a video camera quite does not cut it.
 
John Caballero said:
So for argument sake, if you shoot film stock at 30 fps and transfer it to video, did you shoot that film on video or in film?
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Uh, what kinda argument is that? ANd, what does it have to do with 30p being extra video and 24p having film-like cadence/qualities?

There is no way around it save for, if it exists, ripping out the extra information and conforming the footage to 24p: it will look like video and it will be recognized as video. Yes, there will be a place for some 30p...

Vacation Videos
Some Industrials
Kids Recital
Some Small Cable Network Commercials
Some PSAs
Some Movies that need the home video look to a certain extent

Shoot your heart out, man. The Camera is great and the footage "looks" good so far. Just too bad Canon is pulling a fast one and shoving 30pee down people's throat.
 
PaulM said:
You know what? I'm glad this poo pooer shoots 30p rather than 24p.

I want to have as little in common as possible with the type of filmmaker that would give a shi* about that shi*.
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Oh, you mean the majority of filmmakers, including the ones you want to be like.

yeah, that made a lot of sense.
 
Red has also been used to shoot PSAs and Small time local commercials..

I've seen enough crappy indie shorts shot in 24P to not give it a damn whether or not it's 30P or 24P...

Kholi said:
Uh, what kinda argument is that? ANd, what does it have to do with 30p being extra video and 24p having film-like cadence/qualities?

There is no way around it save for, if it exists, ripping out the extra information and conforming the footage to 24p: it will look like video and it will be recognized as video. Yes, there will be a place for some 30p...

Vacation Videos
Some Industrials
Kids Recital
Some Small Cable Network Commercials
Some PSAs
Some Movies that need the home video look to a certain extent

Shoot your heart out, man. The Camera is great and the footage "looks" good so far. Just too bad Canon is pulling a fast one and shoving 30pee down people's throat.
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I'd really prefer 24p, not only for the aesthetic, but also for a slight bandwidth reduction (other factors being equal) in my final delivery, which is for the web- actually I'm seeing a lot of 720p24 as a final delivery on the web...

Auto-shutter... it doesn't mention if ISO can be manually set, but if you can set the aperture and can't set the shutter then it seems unlikely you can set the third part of the equation.

I would still need to do all sound off camera, the sound in is auto-levels only and that won't work for me.

I'm liking control of the D90's iris on the fly. Right now I only have one declicked manual lens, but I have another lens on the way thats cheap enough I have no fear or hacking it to my heart's delight. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the 5D can't take manual focus lenses with aperture rings, can it? I suppose one could put on Nikon glass with an adapter...

Does anyone want the contrast based autofocus while shooting? I would find it pretty worthless, but maybe they have a new killer way of doing it.

One unexpectedly nice thing is that it can supposedly take still images at any time while shooting. I would find that very useful, presuming they were high-res.

I hope that this will push Nikon into issuing a firmware upgrade, or at least a significantly better D-Movie mode on the D400, D700s, or whatever.
 
ando said:
stellar my a**
the camera doesn't move and they don't look like 1080p at all. you have to resize to 720p just like you have to resize to standard with d90 to make it sharp

doesn't look like binning. Red is way way ahead on this 1080p
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I can't believe you're the one calling that guy a troll!

The clips look fan*****ing*tastic to me.
 
booggerg2 said:
Red has also been used to shoot PSAs and Small time local commercials..

I've seen enough crappy indie shorts shot in 24P to not give it a damn whether or not it's 30P or 24P...
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Sorry, please note "SOME". And that's FINE if you dont' care about it. Shoot your brain to a muddy mess! That's the ticket.

My opinion still stands: If the camera does not have a 24p Option it's sad.
 
Again from Wikipedia in case anybody missed it on the Todd-AO process:

The original version of the Todd-AO process used a frame rate of 30 per second, slightly faster than the 24 frames per second that was (and is) the standard. The difference does not seem great, but the sensitivity of the human eye to flickering declines steeply with frame rate and the small adjustment gave the film noticeably less flicker, and made it steadier and smoother than standard processes. Only the first two Todd-AO films, Oklahoma! and Around the World in Eighty Days, employed 30 frame/s photography.
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Just as I thought : difference does not seem great (highlited by me). The footage is just smoother.

24 FPS is just the standard, it doesn't make it better.
 
ando said:
stellar my a**
the camera doesn't move and they don't look like 1080p at all. you have to resize to 720p just like you have to resize to standard with d90 to make it sharp

doesn't look like binning. Red is way way ahead on this 1080p
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Again, remind me why are you or anyone else comparing the video mode of a sub-$3K DSLR to Red One? LOL

I also saw Jim's post on the Red forum as a response to the 5D's announcement.. My question is why should a specialized cinema camera manufacture feel threatened enough by the "video mode" of a sub $3K DSLR to see a need to address it?

Why should fans of RED see a need to point out that RED is a superior device when it comes to 1080P video capture? LOL

Should Canon take these feedbacks as forms of compliment?
 
booggerg2 said:
Again, remind me why are you or anyone else comparing the video mode of a sub-$3K DSLR to Red One? LOL

I also saw Jim's post on the Red forum as a response to the 5D's announcement.. My question is why should a specialized cinema camera manufacture feel threatened enough by the "video mode" of a sub $3K DSLR to see a need to address it?

Why should fans of RED see a need to point out that RED is a superior device when it comes to 1080P video capture? LOL

Should Canon take these feedbacks as forms of compliment?
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Hell yeah!
 
ESTEBEVERDE said:
Everyone would know it was film.

It's silly to think that frame rate is the end all and be all of the overall aesthetic.
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Yeah! I know! I can't believe people have spent thousands of man hours trying to create it because professionals wanted a frame rate so that their digital images would look that much more closer to what an audience is used to.

And, what generally works better for narrative content.

What is WRONG with this planet!?

I'm out.
 
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