Press Release: HMC150, "the new DVX"

SomewhereinLA said:
Sure, sure that would be nice... But we'll know if they really listened when we find out if you can flip the monitor video output so that using a 35mm adaptor get easier.
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Now THAT is a feature that 35mm adapter guys will find EXTREMELY useful. Lets hope it's in the featureset since we've been asking for it for so very very long...
 
That and the video out option for 480 16:9 instead of Squished via component or composite.

Little Sony Cameras have this, why can't we?
 
right there with you Kholi. that AND the flip monitor would be among my top wishlist items (besides the SD card thing of course)
 
Hi Guys,

I'm new here, I've been reading the posts, and I was sure to buy the HVX200...
Until today...Can anyone help to decide either to wait for the new HMC150, or to get the HVX200, PROS and CONS of each camera? I read the PR for the HMC150...but, I'm still not sure each one to pick...thanks a lot!
 
Well, no, nobody can give you an authoritative answer as to which to get because the HMC150 isn't on the market yet and we don't know how it performs or what all it can do!

HVX is established, been out a couple of years, workflow is well sorted out, it's being used by networks and tv stations and major filmmakers. But it's also a couple of years old, and its recording media (P2) is much more expensive per minute than AVC-HD would be.

HMC150 is newer, presumably will be in the same basic ballpark as the HVX (since it looks a lot like it, it's obviously aimed to be in the same family) and its main claim to fame is that it uses the new AVC-HD format which means you can get 2x to 5x to 16x as much footage per gigabyte, and those gigabytes will cost a lot less than P2 gigabytes. So the HMC150 is likely to be a significantly less expensive option than the HVX. But it won't (apparently) have the variable frame rates that the HVX does, and we don't know what else it may or may not have.

Biggest "con" against the HMC150 is that it's not likely to hit the store shelves until sometime in the Fall, which could mean October or November. The HVX is available today.
 
Thanks a lot!

I think that things might clearer when we get the full specs of the new camera.
I understand that right now it's really hard to compare...The truth is, I dream about the HVX, but when it comes to budget...I just hope P2 cards get cheaper...
 
i dont get it sorry if im being ignorant but why would you want video that is so compressed doesn't dv record at 25 megabits per second and this camera is is around 13 megabits per second i wouldnt see this camera replacing my dvx really i would rather just wait it out and go with the HVX and have a real prosumer camera when it comes down to it most of the things shot on the dvx and the hmc150 will not be seen in a theater MOST. well thats what i think let me know if im wrong or what you guys think about what i said
 
Jaimebailon said:
i dont get it sorry if im being ignorant but why would you want video that is so compressed
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Because that lowers the cost.
doesn't dv record at 25 megabits per second and this camera is is around 13 megabits per second
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Yes, and HDV is 19 or 25 megabits and HDCAM-SR is 440 megabits and ... unless you're comparing apples to apples, none of that matters.

most of the things shot on the dvx and the hmc150 will not be seen in a theater MOST.
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Most of everything that's shot on anything (including 35mm) never gets seen in a theater! That doesn't mean 35mm is anything less than a fantastic format, and several DVX films *have* made it in theaters.

I don't think anyone can say anything authoritative about what this cam will or will not be able to do, six or eight months before it's even released!
 
Barry_Green said:
I don't think anyone can say anything authoritative about what this cam will or will not be able to do, six or eight months before it's even released!
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Well, you did imply that its output wouldn't be as good as HDCAM SR. And of course I'm being flippant -- sort of. As long as expectations are realistic (e.g., it's not in the same league as, say, the F23), we may be pleasantly surprised by what the HMC150 can do. For instance, because it's newer than the HVX, it may have an improved (read higher-res and/or lower-noise) CCDs. Or its HDMI port (which the HVX lacks) may be version 1.3 and even support 10-bit 4:2:2 output. Or because it's a (probably) $3,500-$4,000 prosumer model that (given their typical release schedule) Panasonic will probably have to live with for a couple of years, they may have decided to push the as-yet-unannounced top data rate to 20-24 Mbps. Or it might have image-flip capability. This camera is newer than the HVX, so it's only reasonable to expect it to have features the more-expensive HVX doesn't. So let's be patient and save the whining until after it's released.
 
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Barry, and idea on when we'll get any more *significant* info on this cam?

is it safe to assume the next update will be at nab? or is panny prone to give another press release soon after the first?

This is going to be a good year for cams:thumbsup:


*currently saving up for an upgrade of some sort, possibly Scarlet, possibly panasonic, possibly something I can't fathom at the moment*
 
Well, I'm sure we'll get an update on April 14th, but I don't know if there'll be anything between now and then. If I remember with the HVX release there was the "bridal veil" teaser, and then no official information until the press conference the day before NAB's show floor opened.
 
Just stumbled across this announcement a few days ago. I must say, I'm very exited about this new camera. This might be the camera for me. I've always wanted an HVX200, but the price with the P2 workflow was a bit out of my ballpark. I hope the quality of the long-GOP will hold up for pro-prosumer results.

vidwerk.
 
vidwerk said:
Just stumbled across this announcement a few days ago. I must say, I'm very exited about this new camera. This might be the camera for me. I've always wanted an HVX200, but the price with the P2 workflow was a bit out of my ballpark. I hope the quality of the long-GOP will hold up for pro-prosumer results.

vidwerk.
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my god that was such a sensible comment...

this people is what this camera is made for. this guy, which represents a large portion of video shooters.
 
If it's everything that it should be, it should also be a great solution for producers who are inundated with recent requests for HD from customers (weddings, etc) who actually don't need HD, but just believe that the higher defnition will make their wedding look better... instead of choosing the right videographer.

Sorry, pet peeve of mine.
 
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