Sony XDCAM EX

the sony should work fine, the additional 10mbps make a big difference in green screen. just make sure its well lit. IF Mpeg artifacting get into the green it will be trouble. just like it is on DVCproHD.
 
ilauzirika said:
I have a question.

Which camera hvx or ex1 would be better for greenscreen work?
I was thinkin about the color space of the hvx (4:2:2) would be better for that than the ex1(4:2:0).
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I agree. But then, I have an HVX so I want it to be better than any camera out there.
 
Barry_S said:
Someone needs to shine a flashlight in there to see what's exposed.
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Hehe .. I did that at IBC allready! It's open all the way through, there's a bit of a bend in there, so a normal glance in with a flashlight doesn't show much, but if you look in from the right angle on the other side, you can clean through the camera!

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- Mikko
 
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When you do green screen, it will be in a studio environment. Just hook the XDCAM via the HD-SDI, and you will get true uncompressed 4:2:2 which is better than the HVX's compressed 100mbps.
 
Dxmetal said:
When you do green screen, it will be in a studio environment. Just hook the XDCAM via the HD-SDI, and you will get true uncompressed 4:2:2 which is better than the HVX's compressed 100mbps.
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I didn't thought about that, so the full hd combined with the uncompressed 4:2:2 and a well lit greenscreen should do better (at least on paper) than the hvx ?
 
ilauzirika said:
I have a question.

Which camera hvx or ex1 would be better for greenscreen work?
I was thinkin about the color space of the hvx (4:2:2) would be better for that than the ex1(4:2:0).
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I think we'll need to see a direct comparison of keying with both the HVX and the EX1 before that judgment can be made. All things being equal, 4:2:2 is superior to 4:2:0, but all things are never equal. The question is also how many people will have an option for HD-SDI ingest? I'm familiar with the Blackmagic and Aja cards, but is there an option for laptops. I know those cards run around a grand, so it's not an inexpensive option.
 
true, we'll have to wait for a direct comparison.
as I'm still saving money I have plenty of time to make my mind.

I'm also concerned by that hole that goes through the camera. Hope someone from sony explains what parts are exposed and if it really could make any damage to internal chips.
 
Here's the important part...
Try both cameras before you buy.

It's easy to say one is better than the other, but it's YOU that have to live with your decision.

If you can't manage this, try getting hold to as many MXF files as possible, put them through your paces, and view the results on
a large 1920x1080 monitor. This is probably not the best way to go, but it's better than not trying at all.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the EX1 looks like on my Dell 2405 24" 1920x1080 monitor. This monitor seems to bring out all of the good and
bad in footage. Neither the HVX200 or the HD100 looked that great on the Dell, but looking at highend hollywood HD it looked very clean edge-to-edge.
 
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Steve, what are you feeding the Dell 2405, DVI or Component analog? A few options there, curious for each case you reference. I am assuming DVI in all instances. Thanks.
 
Barry_S said:
All things being equal, 4:2:2 is superior to 4:2:0, but all things are never equal.
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Very true Barry. Offered a choice between 4:4:4 and 4:2:0 signals it would seem a no-brainer which would be best. But what if the former was SD and the latter full HD? All of a sudden, colour space becomes far less significant than other factors.

Less dramatic with what we're talking about, but even using native codecs the EX is 4:2:0 from 1920x1080 chips, with full resolution recording. The HVX may be 4:2:2, but a best case of 1280x1080 recording, and starting from lower resolution chips.

Colour spaces denote ratios, and the number referenced by the ratio is arguably more important than the ratio itself. As Barry says, all things are never equal.
 
Barry_S said:
The question is also how many people will have an option for HD-SDI ingest? I'm familiar with the Blackmagic and Aja cards, but is there an option for laptops
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For laptops there's the AJA I/O HD with direct to ProRes 10 bit recording via FCP and a MacBook Pro. At over $3K it's not cheap, but a very robust option for greenscreen shoots or anything where being tethered is ok.
 
Sony just confirmed that the XDCAM EX cameras
were shipped by ground on 11/16 from Carson, CA
to the dealers.

Depending on your dealer's geographic location, Your dealer
might already have the cameras on their hand.
 
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