Graeme_Nattress
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Passion is what it's about! I'm just happy that the whole of the rest of the team are equally, if not more so, passionate about what they're doing.
Graeme
Graeme
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Gibby
Red Savant
Fun day at the Nuart Theater! I talked with Jim, Jarred, Mike Curtis, Ted, James Masters, Joanne, and Kelley (each of which I knew previously). I also got the chance to meet many DVX User RED forum members who also have reserved RED cameras, including Evexon, Blaine, Donatello, Luis Bustamante + Alex from Hermosillo, DeadZone, and many others. My wife Pamala, who's also my production coordinator, went with me - and was super-happy she did.
The footage looked exceptional. The 4k REDCODE RAW footage convinced me that whenever possible in my workflow, no matter what the delivery resolution will be, I'll probably shoot it in 4k REDCODE RAW. That way it will have "long legs", and be usable in a maximum number of applications and projects. Like Zak, I was stoked with the latest incarnations in the camera design, including the Flash magazine, EVF, Cage One, and RED Rail. It's been a necessarily long refinement process, but I like what I'm seeing. I felt the close-up shot of the girl drinking milk convinced me that even though the 300mm prime is obviously going to be good for nature, sports, etc., it will be a very usable lens for long focal length/shallow DOF narrative cinema use.
The world map of countries where people have reserved RED One cameras also impressed me. It drove home the concept that RED One is getting attention from everywhere.
The audience at the 1:30 screening was a good mix of young chargers and grizzled veterans, so obviously the demographics of RED One's appeal seem to be pretty broad.
Then there's the "buzz". People are excited about this camera! I could feel it in line in front of the theater, inside while waiting for the presentation, and definitely during the presentation, and afterwards.
For me, today was one more confirmation to me that I made a good choice in reserving two RED cameras, the 18-85 zoom, and the 300mm prime. I can't wait to get them in my hands to start cranking out images with them. I've been working in the motion media industry for decades, but it is so cool to find some new equipment to re-ignite my stoke for what I like doing best in this business - simply going out and using a new camera system to capture some quality images. There is nothing quite like that buzz to me!
The footage looked exceptional. The 4k REDCODE RAW footage convinced me that whenever possible in my workflow, no matter what the delivery resolution will be, I'll probably shoot it in 4k REDCODE RAW. That way it will have "long legs", and be usable in a maximum number of applications and projects. Like Zak, I was stoked with the latest incarnations in the camera design, including the Flash magazine, EVF, Cage One, and RED Rail. It's been a necessarily long refinement process, but I like what I'm seeing. I felt the close-up shot of the girl drinking milk convinced me that even though the 300mm prime is obviously going to be good for nature, sports, etc., it will be a very usable lens for long focal length/shallow DOF narrative cinema use.
The world map of countries where people have reserved RED One cameras also impressed me. It drove home the concept that RED One is getting attention from everywhere.
The audience at the 1:30 screening was a good mix of young chargers and grizzled veterans, so obviously the demographics of RED One's appeal seem to be pretty broad.
Then there's the "buzz". People are excited about this camera! I could feel it in line in front of the theater, inside while waiting for the presentation, and definitely during the presentation, and afterwards.
For me, today was one more confirmation to me that I made a good choice in reserving two RED cameras, the 18-85 zoom, and the 300mm prime. I can't wait to get them in my hands to start cranking out images with them. I've been working in the motion media industry for decades, but it is so cool to find some new equipment to re-ignite my stoke for what I like doing best in this business - simply going out and using a new camera system to capture some quality images. There is nothing quite like that buzz to me!
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Mr. Blonde
RED Advocate
Today the beauty of Red footage spoke for itself in the form of many dropped jaws and silent but deadly mutters of "dammmmn" throughout the theatre.
I loved the silky smooth, yet highly detailed image. The colors were rich and true in every aspect. Highlights were extremely well kept and shadow detial was stunning! No noise, no grain, just plain goodness! All my gf could say during watching was, "I'ts beautiful!."
My one and only request (which was mirrored by a few other attendees) was to have the footage projected at a "true" theatrical size. I'm talkin' 60 feet you know.
My guess is that there weren't any theatres available with a larger screen size that also housed the 4K projector?!?
In the end, it was utterly beautiful to see!
BTW Jim, thank you for the autographed emblem and for god sakes, get Ted a better projector remote! :thumbup:
I loved the silky smooth, yet highly detailed image. The colors were rich and true in every aspect. Highlights were extremely well kept and shadow detial was stunning! No noise, no grain, just plain goodness! All my gf could say during watching was, "I'ts beautiful!."
My one and only request (which was mirrored by a few other attendees) was to have the footage projected at a "true" theatrical size. I'm talkin' 60 feet you know.
My guess is that there weren't any theatres available with a larger screen size that also housed the 4K projector?!?
In the end, it was utterly beautiful to see!
BTW Jim, thank you for the autographed emblem and for god sakes, get Ted a better projector remote! :thumbup:
Brook Willard
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It was you! :laugh: :thumbup:Mr. Blonde said:
Brook Willard
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You guys are crazy. Frankie wasn't soft and there wasn't any visible difference between the redcode images and the raw footage. I was there, I'm a DP, and i don't need to pretend that I have supersight and can see that something's fuzzy when everybody else sees a sharp image. First of all the redcode clips went by really fast and there was nothing to compare them to. You couldn't tell if they were flatter or not. I'm on here as SF Geek but come on, the geek meter on this thread is going through the friggin' roof. The stuff looked awesome guys and the ladies' ratcheting was top notch!
Mr. Blonde
RED Advocate
Mr. Andersoooooon......Looks like Agent Smith was there to make sure nothing went wrong. :huh:Brook Willard said:
Mr. Blonde
RED Advocate
Agreed, the ladies ratcheting shot was truly gorgeous. There was nothing video about it in any sense. All I saw was a beautiful, better than film-like image.SF Geek said:
tonacidigital
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a few things...
first, it was great meeting many of you for the first time and seeing many of you again.. Curt, Haakon, Gibby, Evin, and the few others I had good conversation with.
second... about the focus. Graeme touched on it about the backfocus, but another thing to remember is that we are dealing with super 35mm DOF.. your focus plane measured in inches, if not mm... so if one of the girls moves a touch, its out of focus. We didnt have a first AC for those shots, so wee couldnt follow focus. On the wrench shot Brian F pulled focus and did a remarkable job... but for the still 2 shot etc there was just one focus point and that was it.
2nd about Redcode... i think it could of been presented a little better, i do agree. But i can tell you, you can not visibly tell the difference. Download David Stumps redcode frames.. one in redcode and one not... take a look at them at 100% and it will be almost impossible to see a difference. you need to really zoom in and push stuff to see the difference.
3rd.. the win today for me personally was the 300mm prime shot of the girl drinking the milk close up. It was nothing less than breathtaking. Im excited to see that quality of glass for $5000 available to us in a PL mount prime.
first, it was great meeting many of you for the first time and seeing many of you again.. Curt, Haakon, Gibby, Evin, and the few others I had good conversation with.
second... about the focus. Graeme touched on it about the backfocus, but another thing to remember is that we are dealing with super 35mm DOF.. your focus plane measured in inches, if not mm... so if one of the girls moves a touch, its out of focus. We didnt have a first AC for those shots, so wee couldnt follow focus. On the wrench shot Brian F pulled focus and did a remarkable job... but for the still 2 shot etc there was just one focus point and that was it.
2nd about Redcode... i think it could of been presented a little better, i do agree. But i can tell you, you can not visibly tell the difference. Download David Stumps redcode frames.. one in redcode and one not... take a look at them at 100% and it will be almost impossible to see a difference. you need to really zoom in and push stuff to see the difference.
3rd.. the win today for me personally was the 300mm prime shot of the girl drinking the milk close up. It was nothing less than breathtaking. Im excited to see that quality of glass for $5000 available to us in a PL mount prime.
SF Geek said:
Nope, not crazy. I want Red to be a success. However, when I see softness in the wide shot, I cannot deny it. I'm not a DP, but I have two eyes. The CU were extremely sharp, no complaints there. The problem came with the wide shots. However, all logic tells me that the reason for this is the very shallow DOF. Like I said before, looks like the girls were on the edge of it. I am hoping shooting with a wider lens will help this problem. The defocused background isn't so important to me. I look forward to more footage and will continue to wait for my metal "R" to show up in the mail.
Michael Horton
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I was there and enjoyed myself thoroughly which really was the point of the whole thing. No one I know including me could tell the difference when Ted showed the Redcode clip. Absolutely impossible.
Now I'm not a shooter and find anything projected at 4K to look real pretty but these clips looked REAL PRETTY.
Michael Horton
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Now I'm not a shooter and find anything projected at 4K to look real pretty but these clips looked REAL PRETTY.
Michael Horton
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