Images on red.com look like CG Renders

Matthew Bennett

Matthew Bennett

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First off, I'm very impressed by the images on the red.com site, looking forward to seeing more.

On to my topic- maybe it's just me, but the camera images have the look of renders from 3D Studio Pro, the way the out of focus areas look and of course the noisless-ness of the image. I'm not a 3D artist, but I've seen a lot of work that an old roommate of mine did in the before-mentioned program.
I've always hated this look when seeing 3D animations, but now that I'm seeing that same look from a live source, it's very intriguing.

I'm not saying in any way that i think the images on red.com are cgi renders.. I'm just saying that to my eye, they share a lot of qualities with hi-res cg work. It's like you get all the cleanliness and 'slickness of a digital look, but the source is life, which could never be replicated by a 3d program. It's a 'best of both worlds' situation...
Very interesting look, I hope that it holds through the process of tweaking the sensor or whatever the final process is.
 
Dude - I'm quite sure they are actually 3D renders. And why wouldn't they be? Makes sense since the camera body is still under continuous development.
 
tlorenzo said:
Dude - I'm quite sure they are actually 3D renders. And why wouldn't they be? Makes sense since the camera body is still under continuous development.
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Sorry, I meant the gallery images from the camera.. girl blowing smoke, the watch and car especially..
Oh and good commercial!
 
John Allardice said:
Its funny...because I've just spent the past couple of months trying to make cg renders look like they were shot on film!

http://swayftp.com/Hyundai_HNCS_0114.htm
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Fantastic work! Love the feel of the wide angle lens... very good photoreal quality and lighting.

The irony is I spent my summer taking lens distortion OUT of live action plates so I could track them better... :)

Regards,
 
..come on.. of course they are CG. its all a governemt conspiracy man.. i mean , they still wont admit that the moon is made of cheese.
 
John Allardice said:
Its funny...because I've just spent the past couple of months trying to make cg renders look like they were shot on film!

http://swayftp.com/Hyundai_HNCS_0114.htm
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Holy crap, John! That was unbelievable... Absolutely some of the best animation I think I've ever seen.

And, yes, the RED frame grabs do look like they were rendered in 3D, in a good way. I can't wait until I actually need to buy this camera (hopefully sometime late 2007 - early 2008)
 
Jonh, great spot..Sway does amazing work. How many animators do they use at any given time ?
Aloha
-A
 
Perhaps it looks cg because the image is so sharp and noise free compared to the usual digital video images and lacks the graininess of film. Seems to me you add some film grain to the image and you will have the closest filmlooking video to date.

Cheers
 
Matthew Bennett said:
First off, I'm very impressed by the images on the red.com site, looking forward to seeing more.

On to my topic- maybe it's just me, but the camera images have the look of renders from 3D Studio Pro, the way the out of focus areas look and of course the noisless-ness of the image. I'm not a 3D artist, but I've seen a lot of work that an old roommate of mine did in the before-mentioned program.
I've always hated this look when seeing 3D animations, but now that I'm seeing that same look from a live source, it's very intriguing.
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hate to burst into yor bubble there.... but where have you been the recent 10 years?

didnt you have the :money: or the :time: to attend IBC?

however, welcome to my list, young director. you did qualify yourself ...
 
Thanks guys.
Just to cover everybodys' questions: We had a team consisting of 3 modelers (max), 4 character guys (Lightwave), 2 TD's (Lightwave to MAX pipeline), 3 color & lighting (V-RAY), and 4 compositors (NUKE).
Plus myself & one other guy on previs & layout (Lightwave).
I directed, edited and acted as VFX supervisor.
....and yeah, we spent a while working on the anamorphic look, everything from the obvious (flares and elliptical bokeh), to little stuff like chromatic abberration and softening on the fringes of the image and a one to one-and-a-half stop falloff as you get towards the edge of the lens.
The intention was to make it look as if it'd been shot on some old late 60's - early 70's, square front, LOMO anamorphics.
 
John has been tremendosly generous inside and out in many ways through the last couple ways.. and its good to see his talents being shown.

good work!
 
Matthew Bennett said:
First off, I'm very impressed by the images on the red.com site, looking forward to seeing more.

On to my topic- maybe it's just me, but the camera images have the look of renders from 3D Studio Pro, the way the out of focus areas look and of course the noisless-ness of the image. I'm not a 3D artist, but I've seen a lot of work that an old roommate of mine did in the before-mentioned program.
I've always hated this look when seeing 3D animations, but now that I'm seeing that same look from a live source, it's very intriguing.

I'm not saying in any way that i think the images on red.com are cgi renders.. I'm just saying that to my eye, they share a lot of qualities with hi-res cg work. It's like you get all the cleanliness and 'slickness of a digital look, but the source is life, which could never be replicated by a 3d program. It's a 'best of both worlds' situation...
Very interesting look, I hope that it holds through the process of tweaking the sensor or whatever the final process is.
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Good news indeed and really new as well! And not just, new! Even if after all, new!

EDIT -- Sorry my play with the words but I can't find any other form to express what I feel on the subject.
 
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Yes Kudos to John... But I wish I could do what the cg artist are doing ! You can tell the car is cg when it drives out but otherwise, fantastic,
Aloha
-A
 
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