Aaron Lavinsky
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Ive just been playin around with some of my lights and DVX and got this wee grab. tell me what you think...technically of course
yet another grab...input if youd like
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Ive just been playin around with some of my lights and DVX and got this wee grab. tell me what you think...technically of course
pookie_old
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Seems a tad dark there Aaron.
Seems a tad dark there Aaron.
Aaron Lavinsky
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intentionally underexposed though to create a mood but yes, i admit i have a dark style...if youve seen any of my other stuff youd agree
intentionally underexposed though to create a mood but yes, i admit i have a dark style...if youve seen any of my other stuff youd agree
pookie_old
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OK, just checking it wasn't my monitor.
OK, just checking it wasn't my monitor.
pookie_old
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Ah I looked back a bit, you do prefer the darker look don't you?
Ah I looked back a bit, you do prefer the darker look don't you?
Aaron Lavinsky
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guess nobody likes the nice and dark feel but me haha
guess nobody likes the nice and dark feel but me haha
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I'm fascinated by the whole dark concept as well. But sometimes you need lots of light to get the dark look to work. Imagine a creepy scene in the woods on a moonless night. You still need lots of light to make it work. Otherwise there's nothing to see. Even film noir uses plenty of light in the right spots. I think at least part of his face should be properly exposed.
Also, I think shadows help to make a scene look dark. And light is your friend when you want to make shadows.
But don't listen to me, I have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm speaking more as a fan of films rather than a filmmaker.
I'm fascinated by the whole dark concept as well. But sometimes you need lots of light to get the dark look to work. Imagine a creepy scene in the woods on a moonless night. You still need lots of light to make it work. Otherwise there's nothing to see. Even film noir uses plenty of light in the right spots. I think at least part of his face should be properly exposed.
Also, I think shadows help to make a scene look dark. And light is your friend when you want to make shadows.
But don't listen to me, I have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm speaking more as a fan of films rather than a filmmaker.
insanityfw
Ban Me Please!
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Dark is great, but most people don't like to have to strain for all the details. Eyes are very important to visual story telling. Just my $ .02
Dark is great, but most people don't like to have to strain for all the details. Eyes are very important to visual story telling. Just my $ .02
pookie_old
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There was this little old oil painter on PBS years ago who used to say "you need dark to show light"....you also need light to show dark.
There was this little old oil painter on PBS years ago who used to say "you need dark to show light"....you also need light to show dark.
Rich Lee
I shoot Pirates.
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[quote author=pookie link=board=Clips;num=1104295595;start=0#10 date=12/28/04 at 21:55:32]There was this little old oil painter on PBS years ago who used to say "you need dark to show light"....you also need light to show dark.[/quote]
Bob Ross?
[quote author=pookie link=board=Clips;num=1104295595;start=0#10 date=12/28/04 at 21:55:32]There was this little old oil painter on PBS years ago who used to say "you need dark to show light"....you also need light to show dark.[/quote]
Bob Ross?
pookie_old
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No, the little short guy with the accent, same paintings though.
Come to think of it, Bob Ross probably said the same thing.
No, the little short guy with the accent, same paintings though.
Come to think of it, Bob Ross probably said the same thing.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
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The person who I studied under taught me to do the highlights last. I paint from DARK to LIGHT. I am becoming fascinated with Chiaroscuro as illustrated by Walter Graff in this article from his site:
http://www.film-and-video.com/broadcastvideoexamples-Chiaroscuro.html
I think shadows and darkness create a better sense of perception.
The person who I studied under taught me to do the highlights last. I paint from DARK to LIGHT. I am becoming fascinated with Chiaroscuro as illustrated by Walter Graff in this article from his site:
http://www.film-and-video.com/broadcastvideoexamples-Chiaroscuro.html
I think shadows and darkness create a better sense of perception.
pookie_old
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http://www.film-and-video.com/broadcastvideoexamples-Chiaroscuro.html
I think this might be what Aaron might be after, but his light does need a bit of sharpening up.
http://www.film-and-video.com/broadcastvideoexamples-Chiaroscuro.html
I think this might be what Aaron might be after, but his light does need a bit of sharpening up.
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
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[quote author=pookie link=board=Clips;num=1104295595;start=0#14 date=12/28/04 at 22:24:06] but his light does need a bit of sharpening up.[/quote]
Exactly. There is ZERO highlight in that grab. Having the right side of the dudes face hotter would work I think.
[quote author=pookie link=board=Clips;num=1104295595;start=0#14 date=12/28/04 at 22:24:06] but his light does need a bit of sharpening up.[/quote]
Exactly. There is ZERO highlight in that grab. Having the right side of the dudes face hotter would work I think.
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i think my little clip I posted yesterday is a great example. Not tooting my own horn, Its pretty dark, yet theres light in all the right spots to make out everything. Heres the link:
www.rc-nation.com/mydolly.wmv
i think my little clip I posted yesterday is a great example. Not tooting my own horn, Its pretty dark, yet theres light in all the right spots to make out everything. Heres the link:
www.rc-nation.com/mydolly.wmv
J.R. Hudson
Spirit Animal
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I thought this footage was great. Nice use of light and dark.
I thought this footage was great. Nice use of light and dark.
GenJerDan
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[quote author=insanityfw link=board=Clips;num=1104295595;start=0#9 date=12/28/04 at 21:50:19]Dark is great, but most people don't like to have to strain for all the details. Eyes are very important to visual story telling. Just my $ .02[/quote]
In a still, darkness may hide details, make them hard to see...but if the image is moving they tend to be more noticeable.
I think.
Dan
[quote author=insanityfw link=board=Clips;num=1104295595;start=0#9 date=12/28/04 at 21:50:19]Dark is great, but most people don't like to have to strain for all the details. Eyes are very important to visual story telling. Just my $ .02
[/quote]In a still, darkness may hide details, make them hard to see...but if the image is moving they tend to be more noticeable.
I think.
Dan
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I was wondering if it was intentional to frame the face so far on the right. It makes it seem as if the lit pillow was the focus of the still. If it is then good, but it if it isn't then it comes off seeming accidental. It might be better to frame the figure in the middle, or to shift the camera setup so that the pillow and figure are on the right and better lit.
I was wondering if it was intentional to frame the face so far on the right. It makes it seem as if the lit pillow was the focus of the still. If it is then good, but it if it isn't then it comes off seeming accidental. It might be better to frame the figure in the middle, or to shift the camera setup so that the pillow and figure are on the right and better lit.