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Joshua Cadmium said:
You should be able to adapt all Angenieux Zoom Lenses to PV mount using that Duclos universal adapter for older zooms or this for newer zooms: https://www.angenieux.com/accessory/efpv-mount/ . (Duclos also has some for newer zooms). The universal mount is also found on older Cooke zooms.

Duclos also has this mounting system for Canon Cinema Zooms on PV: https://www.ducloslenses.com/pages/multimount .

You can't easily adapt other lenses because the flange distance they need to be at is inside the mount. There are no adapters out there for other mounts on PV. You may be able to have someone make you something, though. Rafcamera makes custom machined adapters, and I had him successfully make one for an anamorphic lens for me. (The machining quality wasn't perfect, but definitely good enough).

On the other hand, Rafcamera doesn't have anything Panavision. Ciecio7, who makes great quality lens adapters, does have adapters for putting PV lenses on other mounts: https://c7adapters.com/en/search/panavision . You might want to check with him to see if he can make you something that would work with one of the lens mounts out there.

I had universal mount lens at one point - the Angenieux 7-81mm for Super 16. I actually put a universal mount to universal mount 2x teleconverter on so it could be used on Super 35.
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Fantastic. Thank you for all this information, very helpful! So when I go to ebay to look at Angenieux lenses, what are the key things to look out for where I know the PV adapter will work? I see some decent zooms for 1,000 bucks which is nice.
 
Mike Krumlauf said:
Fantastic. Thank you for all this information, very helpful! So when I go to ebay to look at Angenieux lenses, what are the key things to look out for where I know the PV adapter will work? I see some decent zooms for 1,000 bucks which is nice.
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I highly doubt you will find a Super-35 format Angenieux zoom for under $1000 on eBay, not even a 50-year old 25-250.

Here's an Ang. 20-120 35mm format zoom with a universal mount, currently asking $3K on eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Angenieux-...160901?hash=item2d0313d9c5:g:CqsAAOSwTz1eKaQW

Note that these lenses are from decades before Super-35 format was common, and were instead designed for Academy 35mm. The difference is that Academy 35mm was a 22mm wide image area instead of a 24mm wide image area because it had to make space for the audio tracks. So it is very possible that this lens will not cover the sensor of your Genesis camera. Matt Duclos may come to your rescue again, as I believe he has an expansive chart on his website.
 
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Mike Krumlauf said:
Whats interesting is the flange distance from T Mount to PV is damn close. The little 35mm lens i've been holding into the mount focuses just fine. If it just had the PV wings on it I could get something to work.

I did also see Panavision adapted Nikon Primes to PV under their "specialty lens" category so its possible.
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T-mount is super close to PV, so if you wanted to stick with that I'm positive an adapter could be made, it just might have to be pushed out a little bit - so you would lose infinity focus (it'd be like a minor extension tube). But, since it's a threaded mount, someone could most likely make it so that the lens would be at the proper flange distance. It's just such an oddball pairing that I'm sure you're the only one out there that wants this specific combo. :)

Mitch Gross said:
Note that these lenses are from decades before Super-35 format was common, and were instead designed for Academy 35mm. The difference is that Academy 35mm was a 22mm wide image area instead of a 24mm wide image area because it had to make space for the audio tracks. So it is very possible that this lens will not cover the sensor of your Genesis camera.
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Academy 35 is a 27.2mm diagonal and the F35 is actually smaller than that at 27.1mm. All of the vintage zooms will cover. (Academy 35 is 22mm wide by 16mm tall).

For more info, here's a white paper by Cooke on the coverage of their 18-100 and 25-250: https://www.cookeoptics.com/techdoc...rotal-and-Cinetal-Coverage-Maxwell_Ayrton.pdf .

If I was going to purchase an older zoom, I'd stick with Angenieux HR, as the prior versions have rotating and/or telescoping front elements. I've seen the Angenieux 17-102mm T2.9 go for relatively cheap, mainly because of coverage and the fact that it weighs 19 lbs.

I also just PM'd some more info.
 
I used a Cooke 20-100mm, which is academy 35, with a F35 and had some minor vignetting at the wide end. It just barely wouldn't cover the sensor.
 
Thanks to Joshua and the people at Duclos Lenses, I think im on a good track to figure out my lens situation.

Now the next blunder... What in gods name do I need to buy to adapt PV's dovetail mount to a threaded mount for my tripod (Its a benro fluid head). lol

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That’s a standard Panavision baseplate mount. I’m sure you could try the Wooden Cameras of the world and someone would have an adapter plate.
 
Mike, if the PV plate is a fortune (I see one for O'connor is over $800) an easier way to go would be to remove the PV plate (it probably mounts with 4 screws) and mount a Benro plate. I like to fabricate and I have the skills and equipment to make stuff like this. I'm willing to make the adaptation for you at minimal cost (I'm guessing in the range of $0 to $50). If interested, PM me and we can discuss it further.

Regarding lens adapter, no, that's beyond my interest level.
 
Anyone else have any ideas as to what those measurements are for the PV mount? I reached out to Duclos to no avail..
 
Having those dimensions won't be enough. Tolerances on a lens mount are critical. There may also be some tricky stuff going on that is not obvious.

Send the camera to your adapter maker. They can measure the camera mount to figure out how to make the adapter. They will need the camera anyway to make sure things fit up properly and have the right tolerances.
 
Paul F said:
Mike, if the PV plate is a fortune (I see one for O'connor is over $800) an easier way to go would be to remove the PV plate (it probably mounts with 4 screws) and mount a Benro plate. I like to fabricate and I have the skills and equipment to make stuff like this. I'm willing to make the adaptation for you at minimal cost (I'm guessing in the range of $0 to $50). If interested, PM me and we can discuss it further.

Regarding lens adapter, no, that's beyond my interest level.
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Woah! That is awesome!
 
I have F35 that came with Panavision Mount. I unscrewed the PV mount and mounted Sony F35 PL Mount, back focus, ready to go.

Can you post a photo of the Panavision Mount removed? Or At least a photo of the PV mount with a little more detail?

From what I can tell I'm pretty sure the PV mount on the Genesis is identical to the one that came off my F35's. Shouldn't the F35 PL mount fit straight onto the Genesis once you remove the PV Mount?
 
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For us nerds, I did a bit more reading on lens mount tolerances. Mathew Duclos says that lens mount tolerances are in the .0005" range (about one sixth the thickness of a piece of paper). Another source says CNC machine typical tolerances are in the .003 - .005" range (which seems pretty sloppy to me). So lens mounts need 10x the tolerance of a typical CNC job. Holding .0005" is a bit of work.
 
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