GH4 Yagh!

I have used my GH1, GH2, and GH3 for short film and documentary shoots, but was still using my HVX200 on corporate or live event shoots. The GH4 and YAGH finally combined just about everything I needed in one package so it seemed like a no-brainer.

I've been putting it through its paces in different situations for the last few weeks. It is a huge pain in the ass that Panasonic didn't include an AC plug for the YAGH, but I got one from B&H called "Power Supply for the ID500 and IB500 LED Lights" that works fine so far. I also got a Tilta V-mount battery pinch with a d-tap to the 4-pin XLR in. Works great so far. Before I got the Tilta, I was running a d-tap to 4-pin XLR from a V-mount battery that has a D-tap in on its side. I had to velcro the battery to my rig, which looked dumb but worked just fine.

I think the point about battery swapping with the YAGH is moot. It takes all of 10 seconds to remove the YAGH if you aren't going to need it. The finickiest part of mounting and unmounting is getting the micro HDMI in properly (you have to do it before you tighten the screw all the way, or it doesn't have enough give to slide into the camera).

Haven't used the HD-SDI yet, hoping to test that out in the next two weeks going into an ATEM and a Tricaster and switching it with an EX1. The XLRs volume seem to run a little higher than they display. One of the first interviews I shot, the speaker was hitting the higher orange LEDs on the audio meters, and it sounded alright in headphones, but most of the audio was clipped when I saw the recorded waveforms. That was mostly dumb on my part for not keeping it in a nice safe tolerance.

Used it yesterday on a short film shoot and when mounting the GH4+YAGH on a rails setup, there are few follow focuses that will reach the lens gears. I've ordered the screw-on rails kit for the YAGH that Smallrig sells, and that should do the trick. I just wish that they'd added back rails as well, since you really do need a place to mount a battery or battery pinch when you're using this thing, and mounting it in front isn't really accessible.

And hey, the thing has fallen twice (tripod leg exploded on me), and it's still purring along just fine. I hope not to make a habit of dropping it, but nice to know it survives a fall from 3-5 feet up. It isn't the perfect gadget, but it does add a lot of pro functionality to the GH4. It's really not for everyone. If I was just shooting short films, I'd be happy with my Zoom H6 or I'd get a Tascam DR-60D. But spending $3000 on a GH4 and the YAGH veruss buying the GH4 and a $3000 video camera with HD-SDI out made sense for my needs.
 
Great to know about that smallrig rails kit for the YAGH, Elvis! I pretty much gave up on mounting a mattebox and so I just screw on a tiffen variable ND....but looks like I'll order that kit now.
 
It might only work with certain follow focuses. I've got the Cinevate Durus, which is on a single rail and moves up and down quite a bit. Should get the Smallrig stuff tomorrow or Wednesday, so I'll post photos.
 
I just got the rest of the Smallrig rails setup and tried it with two follow-focuses (Cinevate Durus and in Indisystem IndiFocusMini). With an EF adapter and a short lens (like the Samyang 85mm or 24mm), neither of my follow-focuses would reach the lens gears on the left side, due to the width of the Yagh's base plus the Smallrig GH4 railblock. It's fine on the right side though.
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I just got the rest of the Smallrig rails setup and tried it with two follow-focuses (Cinevate Durus and in Indisystem IndiFocusMini). With an EF adapter and a short lens (like the Samyang 85mm or 24mm), neither of my follow-focuses would reach the lens gears on the left side, due to the width of the Yagh's base plus the Smallrig GH4 railblock. It's fine on the right side though.
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Are you using the YAGH primarily for audio input?
 
I'm a fan of the YAGH, and second the sentiments that Morgan made.

I was hoping to see more 3rd parties build accessories for the GH4 w/YAGH by now. I do know of one very cool 3rd party accessory for the YAGH in the works which unfortunately has materialized yet, fingers crossed it will get here sooner rather than later.

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FWIW, I decided to put my money where my mouth was and went ahead and spent a fair bit of time designing and building the only 15mm lightweight rod adapter that also provides proper PL mount support on a GH4 w/YAGH. I've been told by some respected camera folks that this radically changes the functionality for professionals using a GH4 w/YAGH, as it is the only supported PL mount for the GH4/YAGH combo and allows use of all heavy native PL mount lenses.

It has already been used on a major TV pilot and network commercial, recorded via HDSDI to a Ki Pro Quad, shooting as B-camera to the Sony F55. For those who use PL mount lenses, ARRI PCA, or other brand Pro Camera Accessories, the support provides all the benefits of the YAGH pro-IO connectors, a rock solid PL mount and accurately spaces 15mm iris rods- for a cost of $129.

The 15mm rod bracket can be used with or without the PL mount support, and is compatible with all Zacuto male threaded 15mm Iris Rods, and Hot Rod Cameras new line of black anodized male threaded aluminum 15mm rods (available in most typical lengths now by phone, and live on the website next week).

As this support just went live a few days ago and I haven't announced it anywhere yet- it's unlikely this community (or really anyone who hasn't read this post knows about it.)

This is the first new mechanical part HRC has launched in the past 3-years. And we have another project set to launch in the next few weeks that should make anyone with a GH4, A7S or Blackmagic Pocket Cinema camera very happy :)
 
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I dont quite get this setup.. it seems the camera will 'work' in two manners..

On the shoulder - one will need rods behind for a countermass like a Vlock.

Or as a 'block' for mounting at which point one would probably want top bottom mounts of a rugged nature?

While I can see this is great to add a Focus motor it is only half of the journey?

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At this point I have been feeding my GH4 audio in this manner… Sound Devices Mixer - Output pair A to Sound Devices Recorder providing dual sync sound - Output pair B to a pair of variable pads - then to an old Beachtek DXA-4P which I had lying around from an older camera, mounted to the camera cage - plugged into the GH4 mic input.

I will be waiting on Atomos to ship the Shogun, and will try it first using HDMI.

Unless Panasonic drops the price dramatically on the YAGH, I am not even considering it's purchase. I appreciate Illya's design, and own his other PL-M4/3 setup, but lets be honest, the YAGH is just a wicked poor design. When will camera designers realize… At the professional level, AKA working folks, we don't want to cobble together a fix to make our gear work. We want camera mounting solutions which conform with a current standard, such as LW 15mm, or Studio 19mm for example. Maybe I shouldn't speak for others out there, as you may be fine with the YAGH. But my preference is to have a baseplate/rails setup in exact LW 15mm height, which if needed could be mounted to a studio 19mm baseplate & rails for big glass. Everything fitting together perfectly.
 
For audio input mainly, yeah.
Have you found the audio quality to be better using the YAGH versus direct into the camera? I understand not all mics can be adapted to the mini jack and that makes the YAGH or external mixer a good tool. I'm trying to figure out what I want to do to get audio into the GH4 direct and I really don't need the video outputs the YAGH offers plus the price.

If I have a audio guy on a shoot all I really need is a solid way to get the audio into the GH4.
 
Have you found the audio quality to be better using the YAGH versus direct into the camera? I understand not all mics can be adapted to the mini jack and that makes the YAGH or external mixer a good tool. I'm trying to figure out what I want to do to get audio into the GH4 direct and I really don't need the video outputs the YAGH offers plus the price.

If I have a audio guy on a shoot all I really need is a solid way to get the audio into the GH4.

Tascam DR-60 is similar to YAGH without the video outputs. I guess it still just has a stereo mini cable to connect the two but I have been happy with my setup. When the audio in cam is golden no syncing but I then have multi channel backup audio I can cut in when things go wonky. I usually run the DR-60 with 2 channels and then another two at reduced volume for safety.
 
The Yagh doesn't have Automatic Gain Control boosting all your levels, so it certainly is better than going directly into the camera.

That said, I had a shoot on Friday and my Yagh would not power up. It was working perfectly the day before when I tested it at home, but whether the battery voltage blew it out or what, it just wouldn't turn on. GH4 is fine, but the Yagh seems to be dead. I only had XLR mics with me for the event, so it made the audio a disaster.

I'm certainly not writing the box off yet, but this makes me wary about not having backup gear on a shoot.
 
And we have another project set to launch in the next few weeks that should make anyone with a GH4, A7S or Blackmagic Pocket Cinema camera very happy :)

Illya,

Even though I don't exactly know what your up to I've been waiting on your offerings since talking with you at HRC. Hopefully it fills my needs as I'm less than thrilled by much is what is out there right now.

Best,
Bern
 
Illya,

Even though I don't exactly know what your up to I've been waiting on your offerings since talking with you at HRC. Hopefully it fills my needs as I'm less than thrilled by much is what is out there right now.

Best,
Bern

It was good to see you yesterday. Please connect with me at the end of the month for a private viewing. :happy:
 
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