XL2 first real life impression

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..very clean imagery. even after the wmv compression. I was really impressed with the quality of the picture. it doesnt look as filmlike as the DVX to me at all , but well see what you can do after tweaking those settings!..

even as still, as i stated before in another thread.. i dont care if it cooks me breakfast.. with new variant HD format cameras just around the corner. but if i needed a new SD camera right now.. id seriously consider it if the cine gamma settings do it any justice.
 
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Thanks guys,
I just press the red button,Thanks to Jarred it is on the net!

With the help of my wife I will try and post XL2,DVX100 side by side "home made interview like" set up.

Johnnie
 
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Johnny,

is it possible for you to compare the XL2 to the DVX100A ?

(because the 100A have better imagery than the original 100)
 
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I missed the first clips!! :'(

But the second ones are awesome!!!!! Do you think you can post full resolution(none-stretched) frame grabs, Johnnie?
 
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wow,
That looks nice Johnnie,
thanks Jarred for sharing the footage.

Johnnie,
was this footage shot in 24P(25P PAL) without cine gamma and cine matrix?
 
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Mark thank you for the kind words, I will try posting full resolution frame grabs tomorrow.

chi_red,The footage shot in 25P PAL with cine gamma and cine matrix.But I have a feeling that on that demo video camera the cine Matrix have no in influence on the picture.

Tnx
Johnnie
 
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Ok. I agree that it looks nice (actually very nice), but is there anything shot somewhere that is not brightly lit? Outdoors, an 8mm camera looks good (albeit not 16:9).

Very nice image. Nothing negative to say... But I don't normally shoot park scenes, so I cannot get excited by this clip. Our DVX's in that same park on the same day would hold up quite nicely I believe.

Thanks again for sharing.

Andrew
Crystal Clear Media
 
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Hi Andrew
Neither do I am shooting parks for living...
But when you get a new camera for a shot time it is just another place to gather images.
Actually the are images I was shooting 2 days ago with some shots taken inside a church.Jarred have them too.it is all hand-held and before I new I will have the camera for the weekend.you can imagine the millage I did that day...

Johnnie
 
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What about the audio? Inputs/hiss/monitoring levels, etc... I think that was one of the shortcomings of the xl1...
 
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Andrew,

You should have seen the first clip that was posted. There were plenty of shots in dark places. One in particular was a horse carriage moving through a tunnel. No noise in the shot at all. Very nice shot!

I agree the DVX would probably be just as good with it's images. But not true 16:9.
 
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yeah,
very very clean imagery.
I am impressed.

but the only problem is that it still looks very videoish even with "cine gamma" ON.
Johnnie thinks that cine matrix control on his demo camera does not work.
I hope he will find ways to make images look more filmlike.
 
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It still does look like film. The DVX only looks like certain filmstocks. The XL2 looks like different film stocks. I've seen plenty of films that look like that. In fact, the entire clip looks like an opening of a film shot in the early to mid 90's. It actually reminds me a little of the opening of Balto. :)
 
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New here,

Anyway, for those of you who have shot film a lot: what sort of film does the DVX look most like? Same with the XL2 (granted from the very minimal screenshots etc)?
 
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Looks even better when you color correct.

Before

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After

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Bill,I will not deal with audio this time.The camera has a big section from its body (behind a protective door) dedicated to audio.This camera have the potential to making it big time,lets hope Canon took care of the audio the way they took care of the picture.

On this camera the Gamma and the Matrix have two options,normal and cine.The gamma is responding when playing between them,the matrix does not!

I can not even explain how clean the picture is comparing to the DVX100.I remember when i got the Panasonic over a year ago,when watching material I took for the first time with camera settings out of the box, I thought something is wrong due to some picture noise,then I learnt to accept it,make it a bit better and even convince myself that it is contributing to the general "film look" feeling.That is way the XL2 clean picture was the first thing popped to my eyes,and as I can read not only to mine.

Tonight was a rainy night in Vienna.I hope tomorrow night is better so I can take some night shots.

Johnnie
 
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The same way when we are playing with this settings in our DVX.
Low,hi,ext...
 
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