Windows on a Mac?

sanjin

sanjin

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"With Intel processors inside the new Macs, users could technically and theoretically load Windows onto a Mac computer, although it would require some technical expertise to pull it off. That would allow a user to run both Microsoft and Apple’s operating systems on the same Apple machine.

Neither Apple nor Microsoft appeared bothered by the prospect.

Phil Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of worldwide product marketing, said in an interview Tuesday that the company won’t sell or support Windows itself, but also hasn’t done anything to preclude people from loading Windows onto the machines themselves.

“That’s fine with us. We don’t mind,” Schiller said. “If there are people who love our hardware but are forced to put up with a Windows world, then that’s OK.”


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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10789855/page/2/

It was never better time to switch on a Mac!

SJUSER
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Actually sjuser, the same can be said for a pc. You now can run mac osx and final cut on a pc also. So it's also never been a better time to switch to pc! =)
 
Actually, unless you are technically savy enough to install an illigal hacked version of os x for a pc then you will not be able to. Also the hack works off emulating the right intel chipset which has many problems (sound doesn't work) and is not very fast at all. Final Cut Pro will run like crap if it runs at all on a hacked os x PC.
 
Just found out that the Intel Macs use EFI instead of BIOS (boot system), so when XP can be installed on an EFI system, these Macs will boot into Windows.
 
Mr. Blonde said:
Actually sjuser, the same can be said for a pc. You now can run mac osx and final cut on a pc also. So it's also never been a better time to switch to pc! =)
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Could you explain a little bit more? I was browsing the Mac forums and what I find is people more or less agree that it is or it would be possible to run OS x on PC though with some issues like the sound and video card; they are optimistic about the problems though and think that untill the end of the year they would be pretty much gone.
 
I didn't followed the whole Mac/Intel thing, but are you sure Intel will manufacture regular x86 compatible cpu's for Apple?
 
The intel CPUs used in the new Apples are Intels latest chips that will soon appear in the machines of other PC manufacturers.

Pre-release versions of intel OS X had already been "hacked" to work on a PC, but there is limited hardware support at it only includes drivers for a small number of motherboards and graphics cards. Plus you'd have to be pretty skilled (and possibly breaking your license agreement / the law) to get it to run on a regular PC. Apple has no plans to release OS X for non Apple hardware (they make 80% of their profit from hardware).

Apple says the intel Macs will not prevent Windows booting, but as has previously been mentioned, currently XP does not support booting using EFI.
 
Should Apple Open Up?

"But Apple has an intriguing new possibility now, as a result of the move to Intel chips: license Windows, and have it run in Macs alongside the Mac OS. That way, consumers could run their trusty Office applications such as Word and Excel using Windows and also have access to Apple's slick iLife programs -- whether it's for listening to music via iTunes, managing photos using iPhoto, or creating multimedia Web sites with music, videos, and podcasts using Apple's new iWeb program."

Read the text from Businessweek Online

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2006/tc20060111_378241.htm


SJUSER
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Hi Sajin,
Munich talking. I just read somewhere else in the net that Microsoft (!!!!) is to bring out a new version of VirtualPC for IntelMac pretty soon. Without need to translate PowerPC code into Intel code this means that the whole issue Windows on Mac should be solved most elegantly then.

I am looking forward to these upcoming new possibilities. Will solve a lot of my current probs.

How are your plans for Formi this year? Have you been to the New Year's concert
in Vienna?
 
If Apple computers were dual-boot, there'd be very little reason for software writers to write Mac OS versions of software.

Which would make the Mac OS more of a botique OS than it already is.

That being said, it's pretty uncanny how much the latest CTP version of Windows Vista looks like OS X.
 
Mr. Blonde said:
Actually sjuser, the same can be said for a pc. You now can run mac osx and final cut on a pc also. So it's also never been a better time to switch to pc! =)
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No you cant run fcp until march, and you cant run them on windows you have to have rosetta and OS X.
 
Windows was created to emulate the Mac gui. Gates had to jump through some hoops since he had also developed the Mac OS. (I remember "real" computer user, read DOS, telling me that Mac were just toys and no self respecting computer person would be caught dead pointing and clicking. Look who's pointing and clicking.) Windows has never quite been able to catch up with Mac OS, though they have come a long way. I have worked on both for years and, TO ME, there is definitely a different "feel" to Windows than there is to "Mac OSX". I'm not saying one is intrinsically better, though I personally believe that. What I'm asking is why? Why would you buy a Mac, then run an operating system on it trying to emulate its native system. :)

The ONLY answer I can give to that is that you want to run software not available on Mac OS. In the past, I have used Virtural PC, but I think I've only had it fired up once in the last year.
 
From Macworld UK - Multiple reports confirm that hardcore advanced PC users have been downloading illegally distributed copies of Apple’s developer version of OS X for Intel processors. They have been hacking the system to make it install on all manner of PC processors, including those from Intel and AMD.

Jobs said: “We don’t know how having OS X available for PCs would affect Macs”, and promised, “we will have technology in OS X for Intel so that it cannot be installed in other PCs”. He also promised that the final version should not be judged on the basis of the developer versions.

But Apple’s leader isn’t pulling punches when it comes to his battle with the pirates. “Theft is bad”, he said, warning: “You don’t want to burn in Hell.”
OSX on X86 is illegal to install because it contains system hacks which violate EULA agreements. It's also illegal because the only way to get it is to download a pirated copy. You may not agree with it, but there it is.
 
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