Will the DVX anamorphic make the HVX Cinemascope?

Norm Sanders

Norm Sanders

Script Wrangler
Just brainstorming, but since I've heard the lense is the same 72mm, will my current Wide Angle lens work on the HVX? What if I put the DVX Anamorphic on the HVX, will that take it from the standard 1.85 ratio (approx.) to 2.35 (or whatever, you know what I mean)?
 
The lens is not 72mm, it's 82mm. Existing standard-def wide-angle adapters may or may not work, the glass may not be up to the task of resolving a high-definition image.

The existing anamorphic won't fit on the HVX.
 
Thanks. I guess I had 72mm stuck on my mind from the screw in filter size. Thanks for all your dedication to this site & it's people, Barry, Jarred, and everyone else who is on here ALL the time!
 
I would guess that if a person shot most of their footage @ 1080p/24fps DVC100, just adding a letterbox in post would be fine, even for a film-out to 35mm. Also, you would have no capatability issues, as there isn't a HD-anamorphic squeeze/unsqueeze function like there is for SD DVDs.

Heck, people film out with DVX100s. Can you imagine film out @ 1080p/24fps? Can you say "Attack of the Clones"?

These are only my guesses. Paging guru Brad Green...
 
Bart_Boge said:
I would guess that if a person shot most of their footage @ 1080p/24fps DVC100, just adding a letterbox in post would be fine, even for a film-out to 35mm. Also, you would have no capatability issues, as there isn't a HD-anamorphic squeeze/unsqueeze function like there is for SD DVDs.

Heck, people film out with DVX100s. Can you imagine film out @ 1080p/24fps? Can you say "Attack of the Clones"?

These are only my guesses. Paging guru Brad Green...
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lol .... did you mean Barry?
 
Yikes! Did I say Brad? I certainly meant Barry!!

The engineer who worked on my band's last album, and another engineer we consulted for the project (both of whom I have spoken to TODAY, ironically) are named Brad.

Sorry!

Brad Boge
(D'OH!!)
I mean BART Boge
 
Shaw said:
Bart, that's exactly what Lucas did for EpII. Cropped 1080p.
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Sure, but the camera he used was a little bit more advanced than the HVX.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in lust with the HVX, but we have to be realistic about our expectations for this camera. It's only 1/3" CCDs. It's only $6K. Resolution only takes us so far. This is why the Varicam and CineAlta will continue to be sold. They are the high end. The HVX is not.

That said, I can't wait to see HVX footage on a big screen. I've seen DVX footage, and was honestly blown away by the quality. The HVX, by comparison, should look absolutely stunning.
 
Oh I absolutely agree. I'm just saying, from a resolution point of view, cropping to 2.35 isn't bad at all.

I can't wait to see the HVX on the big screen either!
 
What jrv3034 said. Absolutely. This won't be a VariCam or CineAlta (even though I call it the "VariAlta") but hey, if it retains all the goodness of the DVX image but adds higher resolution, it should still be flabbergastingly awesome on the big screen!
 
jrv3034 said:
the Varicam and CineAlta will continue to be sold.
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The VariCam type camera will sell because it has an eleven stop dynamic range that no other camera like it has matched.. Also, 4-60Fps with variable electronic shutter angle. I would expect Panasonic to migrate to D5-HD camcorders within three-five years that record on P2 cards. They displayed a mockup (behind bars) of a D5-HD P2 "VariCam" at NAB 2004. It was empty inside. But, it makes you wonder if it's really that far fetched.

I have no idea why the HDCAM CineAlta would be bought by anyone.
HDCAM-SR CineAlta will be sold selectively to ignorant rich people only.
 
Personally I thought Attack of the Clones looked pretty bad, it had a very soft and sort of washed out feel to it, so I don´t know what to expect.
I recently saw a screening of a film I worked on where we used alot of different formats (35mm, S16mm, Bolex, Sony 570 and DVX-100) and I can say that the DVX footage didn´t "blow me away" , but it certainly looked better than the 570 (DVCAM) and worse than (most) of the footage shot on film.
(The screening took place in the biggest cinema in Oslo, it has around 1000 seats, so it´s a BIG screen).
It will be very interesting to see how the HVX will handle a blow up to 35mm.

Edit: It was a feature length documentary and the DVX 100 came out while we were shooting, hence all the different formats
 
joachim hoge said:
Personally I thought Attack of the Clones looked pretty bad, it had a very soft and sort of washed out feel to it, so I don´t know what to expect.
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Did you see it projected digitally? I saw both digital projection, and regular projection of Ep.II, and the digital version was far superior in color and definition. I could see the pixels if I tried, but after a few minutes I stopped noticing them.

joachim hoge said:
I recently saw a screening of a film I worked on where we used alot of different formats (35mm, S16mm, Bolex, Sony 570 and DVX-100) and I can say that the DVX footage didn´t "blow me away" , but it certainly looked better than the 570 (DVCAM) and worse than (most) of the footage shot on film.
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Well, yeah. I don't doubt that seeing DVX footage projected next to 35mm would look worse than film. It's a $3500 camera! With $5 tapes!

When I said I was "blown away" by DVX footage, it wasn't being shown back to back with film footage. If it's DVX by itself, in a couple of minutes you forget what "regular" film looks like, and just enjoy the film (if the script is good).
 
For strictly 35mm filmout applications, perhaps an anamorphic lens taking the aspect to 2.35:1 WOULD be a cool thing. Maximum useable resolution from the format. If anamorphic squeeze is good enough for film itself, it might be acceptable for HD, no? Of course, all the usual optical drawbacks from anamorphics would still be in place. Maybe it's just not worth the trouble.
 
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