Why does the Canon 3T Rebel have 25p instead of 24p?

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srmarx

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Could somebody explain the marketing incentive for having 25p video instead of 24p in the American version of the 3T.
Is this a PAL format? And if so, what does it look like on a US HD TV/
 
Go to menu --> Tab with the wrench icon --> Video system and select pal/ntsc. (at least on the 5d3...not entirely sure about T3i...you might need to be in movie mode..and you do mean T3i, right? There's no 3T.)

Pal will give you 25p/50p, ntsc will get you 24p/30p/60p
PAL is used in Europe/most of Asia etc. NTSC is used in the Americas and Japan. If you're shooting for broadcast, make sure you're on the correct frame rates... if you give NTSC editors 25p, I would imagine they'd give you hell for it :P
 
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The T3 is an even lower end of the consumer Rebel line. 12MP chip, video is 720P at 30 and 25. I'm sure 24 was left off so that filmmaking enthusiast wouldn't consider it as an option and step up to a more expensive model. I suspect that it doesn't have manual exposure either in video mode. No doubt the sensor is also old technology not capable of reading out much faster.

To bad really as 12MP would be ideal for developing a video centric hybrid shooter. Still would be good enough for production stills or the kinds of stuff that video guys, and the widescreen active area would be very close to that of the C series cinema cameras allowing for perfect HD scaling to a digic dv processor. OH well... T3 is not the one you want, the (i) is critical. 12mp point and shoot chips do video quite well.
 
Thanks, dop16mm, I meant T3, not T3i, and it doesn't have 24p. I agree, too bad, because 12MP is fine for me.
 
srmarx said:
Thanks, dop16mm, I meant T3, not T3i, and it doesn't have 24p. I agree, too bad, because 12MP is fine for me.
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And limited to 720p. And if I recall correctly, lack of manual movie exposure, not to mention exaggerated rolling shutter due to the slower and inferior sensor. In fact, it seems like a pretty poor choice for video in almost every regard aside from the 12mpix.
 
dop16mm said:
The T3 is an even lower end of the consumer Rebel line. 12MP chip, video is 720P at 30 and 25. I'm sure 24 was left off so that filmmaking enthusiast wouldn't consider it as an option and step up to a more expensive model. I suspect that it doesn't have manual exposure either in video mode. No doubt the sensor is also old technology not capable of reading out much faster.

To bad really as 12MP would be ideal for developing a video centric hybrid shooter. Still would be good enough for production stills or the kinds of stuff that video guys, and the widescreen active area would be very close to that of the C series cinema cameras allowing for perfect HD scaling to a digic dv processor. OH well... T3 is not the one you want, the (i) is critical. 12mp point and shoot chips do video quite well.
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Oh ok. Mistook it as the T3i. Always thought the lower end one was the T2.
 
Donald Ong said:
Oh ok. Mistook it as the T3i. Always thought the lower end one was the T2.
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That also exists. A good general rule for understanding Canon's consumer/prosumer camera models (high end / pro level notwithstanding) is the number of digits. The amount of digits represents the class, and the actual number represents the generation.
For example, the plastic consumer Rebel line is up to the T4i (aka 650D), which replaced the t3i (600D), which replaced the t2i (550D), which replaced the t1i (500D). These are all the same class camera with very similar features and nearly identical picture quality, only updated with new bells and whistles each year.
The next level up was the xxD (double-digit D)- current model is the 60D, which replaced the 50D, 40D, 30D, etc.
These models were bigger and slightly more professional versions of the smaller and plastic Rebel line. But make no mistake, you can't compare different models across different classes, but it is very easy to make the mistake based on generation levels.

The Tx line is different than the Txi line (as dop16mm said, that "i" makes a huge difference). That is a level LOWER than the Txi (or xxxD) level, with an inferior sensor and less manual controls. My memory is a bit fuzzy on this, but I think the T3 was even released while the T2i was championing the xxxD line. I remember seeing an add for a Canon DSLR package back when I was a heavy T2i user, and thinking "the t3i is out already??", and it turned out to be just the T3.

The exception to this rule is the professional and higher level models, which are single digits (1D, 5D, 7D, etc). I would assume the reason is because the single digits can't increment without colliding with each other (the second generation of the full frame 5D was the 5D Mark II, because there already is an APS-C camera named the 7D).

Hope this helps clear up the confusion!
 
M. Gilden said:
That also exists. A good general rule for understanding Canon's consumer/prosumer camera models (high end / pro level notwithstanding) is the number of digits. The amount of digits represents the class, and the actual number represents the generation.
For example, the plastic consumer Rebel line is up to the T4i (aka 650D), which replaced the t3i (600D), which replaced the t2i (550D), which replaced the t1i (500D). These are all the same class camera with very similar features and nearly identical picture quality, only updated with new bells and whistles each year.
The next level up was the xxD (double-digit D)- current model is the 60D, which replaced the 50D, 40D, 30D, etc.
These models were bigger and slightly more professional versions of the smaller and plastic Rebel line. But make no mistake, you can't compare different models across different classes, but it is very easy to make the mistake based on generation levels.

The Tx line is different than the Txi line (as dop16mm said, that "i" makes a huge difference). That is a level LOWER than the Txi (or xxxD) level, with an inferior sensor and less manual controls. My memory is a bit fuzzy on this, but I think the T3 was even released while the T2i was championing the xxxD line. I remember seeing an add for a Canon DSLR package back when I was a heavy T2i user, and thinking "the t3i is out already??", and it turned out to be just the T3.

The exception to this rule is the professional and higher level models, which are single digits (1D, 5D, 7D, etc). I would assume the reason is because the single digits can't increment without colliding with each other (the second generation of the full frame 5D was the 5D Mark II, because there already is an APS-C camera named the 7D).

Hope this helps clear up the confusion!
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Ah ok.
I'm used to just calling them 650D, 1100D, 600D etc.
In Singapore there isn't the rebel branding... and to be honest, I don't see much point in branding cameras differently in different countries...
 
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