Why a DSLR Won’t Make You a Good Filmmaker

NextWaveG

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Several years ago I was going to college for graphic design when I was introduced to this great program that you could make cool videos with. It was called iMovie and was the first time I ever worked with video before. Our assignment was to take pictures and make a slide show. Well not being one for underachievement, I took some wedding photos I did for a friend and turned it into an action movie trailer. The teacher was so impressed that she showed it to the dean of the school.

After the class was over, I thought to myself, “If I can do that with photos, I wonder what I could do with video.”

So I went on ebay not knowing anything and bought a cheap JVC miniDV camcorder. It had a broken LCD screen but the viewfinder still worked. But it only cost $27. I found a rusty aluminum tripod in my buddy’s attic and we were off. We made a short video (that I won’t show you so you won’t loose all respect for me) and had a great time. But when I was done I looked at it and said, “Why doesn’t this look like the movies?”

Living in Green Bay, Wisconsin doesn’t give you a ton of options for learning film. So I started looking around online and bought my first HD camera. It was a Sony HC3 and served me well. But always being one for upgrading, I looked to see if there were any accessories I could get for it. I came across the Canon HV20 and saw all these adapters and rigs being added to this tiny camera. I wondered why no one was doing that to my HC3 and slowly discovered the importance of 24p and manual control. I bought an HV20 and built my first DOF rig.

I’ll admit that I was bitten by the DOF bug. “Forget learning lighting, composition, blocking, etc……As long as it has shallow DOF then you’re golden!” I became one of the people I now roll my eyes at. But I soon discovered that shallow DOF is by its self, very shallow.

I decided to step away from the whole DOF rig scene and try my hand at video production. I sold my HV20 rig and bought an XH-A1. But the guy that I bought my XH-A1 from ended up throwing a Redrock M2 into the sale. So I was back with a DOF rig, but this time I learned to use it as a tool instead of a gimmick.

I did a few productions but was always frustrated at the size of the rig. There were times I wished I could just go out and shoot for the day, but I didn’t feel like hauling my huge Pelican case across town. I used it for paying gigs, but not much creative work.

I heard about DSLRs but was nervous about the technology. Would it shoot real video well? Could I use it for productions? Would I be taken seriously without my huge camera rig? After much debate and being tired of hauling around my big-rig, I sold everything and bought a 5D MkII.

After I received it, I took it out for a commercial shoot and was amazed at the quality. Not because it had shallow DOF but because the image was so crisp and vivid. I was hooked!

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Now I told you all that to get to my point which is that simply buying a DSLR won’t make you a good filmmaker…for the same reason none of my other equipment by itself made me a good filmmaker. Having shallow DOF isn’t some magic fairy dust that you sprinkle over video footage to make it good. There are so many other factors to it. You need to understand every facet of the art form. And if you don’t know it all, surround yourself with people who can compliment your talents. Work off of each other and learn from one another. I can light a scene pretty darn well but I couldn’t write a script to save my life. And forget having me be your sound guy.

On the other side, there are a lot of DSLR haters out there. They complain because it has moiré, rolling shutter, aliasing, etc. that it shouldn’t be used for productions. But then I started talking to other DP friends of mine. DPs who are paid professionals with years of experience in digital and film productions (one of which makes about $40K a week). I asked them what they use, and you know what it was?

DSLRs

Do they use them exclusively? HECK NO! They have EX1s or HVX200s or REDs in their arsenal for when they are needed. But do they use DSLRs primarily? Absolutely.

At the end of the day, you are an artist and your camera is your tool. It’s not the tool that makes the image, it's the artist. No matter how many limitations a tool has, a skilled artist can still make something beautiful with it.

The best example I can use is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUWqRhReaZk

This is an artist using MS Paint to create a fairly photorealistic picture of a car. Is MS Paint the absolute best tool for drawing pictures? No. But it is cheap and in the hands of a professional, it can be used to create beautiful images.

You wouldn’t yell at this person for using Paint and say, “You should be using Photoshop! You’ll have higher resolution and better tools for editing.” Instead you would applaud their ingenuity and creativity.

I want to embrace the possibilities of new technology and go out and create something fun and exciting. I don’t want to sit back and complain while I wait for the technology to be perfected. I may screw up along the way, but at least I’m trying!

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If you read all that, thanks! :D I look forward to your feedback.
 
At the end of the day, you are an artist and your camera is your tool. It’s not the tool that makes the image, it's the artist. No matter how many limitations a tool has, a skilled artist can still make something beautiful with it.
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superb write up, im still new to this and was bitten by the bug that unless i had every expensive gadget going I wont be able to shoot good footage, you have just confirmed to me that I need to work with what I have now, make the best of it and learn via experience of being creative and different in my footage rather than concentrating on having the perfect uptodate setup and a boring mediocre footage. I guess my previous hobby was modifying cars, so I kind of took that same inspiration to film cameras, when I first purchased my camera, it was on the bases of how it looks rather than what it could do, same with the rig and monitor, as long as it looked cool id buy it, and hopefully will have proffessional looking films lol. Ive got a lot to learn, although am tempted to put a spoiler on the camera and some racing sticker... joke :happy:
 
well said - it will only become easier for the masses to achieve the video quality of HD-DSLRS as time progresses and prices come down.

As always stated - Content is king :)

With that said though, it's interesting to see how the communities somewhat split. There's the side that just hate DSLR's, if not because of it's limitations, then because of the onslaught of the "new users" who come a long with it. Not because they're young/newbs, but because many have assumed the roll of film-maker because they've purchased an amazing tool, but have yet to produce work that justifies the title.
 
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I own an HPX-170. The camera is a workhorse and I've gotten a lot of great paying jobs from owning it. I also own an M2.

I'll probably end up owning an HDSLR as well. Will I sell my HPX to get it? Absolutely not. I'll have both. What will I do in the meantime?

Purchase good lenses.
 
I own an HPX-170. The camera is a workhorse and I've gotten a lot of great paying jobs from owning it. I also own an M2.

I'll probably end up owning an HDSLR as well. Will I sell my HPX to get it? Absolutely not. I'll have both. What will I do in the meantime?

Purchase good lenses.

Smart call. I still use my HVX200 stock along side my 7D for most wide shots. With the stock lens it looks amazingly sharp and in post I can make it as contrasty, or flat as I need it to match up with the 7D footage.
 
Well said! At first I was a worried this was going to be another hate thread for dslr's, you however, made some excellent points. Having learned photography on a film SLR and film making on Bolex 8mm and 16mm cameras. I have always been more comfortable with manual controls and thinking in terms of ASA (ISO) fstops and shutter speeds. The 7D with Nikon AI lenses make it easier to shoot this way. Now if I had learned exclusively on say a DVX100, I might be less enthusiastic getting used to a DSLR.

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I agree wholeheartedly. A few years ago I purchased a Canon XL1. It worked great for what I needed. But, recently I've wanted to upgrade to full manual HD, keep it "cheap", and have a smaller rig.

So I sold my SD rig and bought a T2i.

Since almost all of my stuff is short form interviews, promos, etc. At this point I don't really need to be able to record more then 12 min. at a time. So the HDSLR gives me all that I need and more.
 
Fact 1 99.9% of commercially released movies up until now have been shot on film. Fact 2 in recent years a handful of expensive high quality Digital Cameras have started to be used to make commercial movies. Fact 3 Since the Red camera a sizable chunk of big budget commerical movies have been shot on Red.

I agree in principal with the talent over technology, but this needs to be balanced with the real world where 'real movies' can only recently be shot on a camera far more cheaply than film. And that in this coming year for peanuts a few companies will release digital cinema cameras that could stand side by side with a blockbuster in terms of picture.

That my boy is a revolution. So don't hang too tightly to the idea that a movie maker can use an old tin can and be a moviemaker, get in on this revolution and IF you have the talent your work can shine and be up their interms of quality with the big boys.
 
To continue my previous analogy...

If you take MS Paint again and give it to someone who is unskilled with it, what will you get? A very bad drawing. Something no one will care about.

That was the point of my post. Let me extend the title out. Why simply buying a DSLR won't make you a good filmmaker. Better equipment in skilled hands will always trump poor equipment in unskilled hands.

BUT...

Where the line gets blurry is decent equipment in the hands of an expert vs. great equipment in the hands of a novice. And I think that's where the whole RED vs. DSLR debate needs to stay. If you are a skilled professional and can afford a RED, then do it. But if you are skilled but can't afford a RED, then a DSLR is a fantastic alternative.
 
Ya know, there's an old story about Ted Nugent asking a guitar tech to try out Eddie Van Halen's gear onstage before a sound check and when he played through Eddie's gear, guess who he sounded like? Yep. He sounded like Ted Nugent, not Eddie Van Halen. Guitar magazines sell issues based in part on disclosing what gear certain guitar players are using so all the wannabe rock stars can run out and buy that gear and sound like whoever. Guess what? They'll still sound like themselves regardless of having the same preamp Carlos Santana uses.

Having a better set of tools won't necessarily make one a successful artisan or craftsman or technician. When the playing field gets leveled, it still comes down to the same stuff and in fact forces people using these same tools to expand on technique and to be even more creative and original so as to stand out.

When DV changed filmmaking to something within reach of 500% more people, all it did was create a glut of crappy films and helped usher in 500% more film festivals in addition to ushering in a new era of awful TV spots.

It ain't what you got that counts. It's how you use it.

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great thoughts!!
I too just recently purchased a T2i (looking forward for it to come) and I know I am not as skilled as many, but as a high school senior I am looking forward to learning more and more as I go.

I moved from the DVX100B for the DOF and HD, as well as the ability to use interchangeable lenses.

I will post some work for C&C when I actually get the camera in and shoot some. Should be this wednsday, I can't wait!!!

also, that video of the MS Paint guy: ridiculous....
 
I was a prof. musician for years, played 5 or 6 club gigs a week, packed houses, etc. Great times.

One night I went with a date to see a band. There was the crappiest gear I'd ever seen on the stage. Rickety drums with flimsy my-first-kit hardware. Beat up old amps. Then the guys headed for the stage - looked like a bunch of old alkies that needed showers bad.

Over my snarky comments to my date, they took the stage - and blew the freaking doors off that club.

Same deal... it ain't the gear.

I've seen plenty of posts (esp. on creative cow's video forums) from the DLSR haters. Screw 'em. The things make awesome images that hold up really well in post, and with Canon, you have enough control to limit extreme post anyway. Yeah, there are compromises (especially on the audio side), and for my needs, EVERYTHING is a compromise until Scarlet is available (and with kids in college, $5k for a camera will be considered... a compromise as well).

So, I don't care what the current opinions are - crappy shooters will shoot crappy DSLR movies with lots of shallow DOF. Good shooters will wring some killer images from whatever they've got in their hands.
 
NextWaveG, you are contradicting to yourself. First you say how you sold everything for the DSLR and how $40K-a-week pros are using it, then you are saying that if one cannot shoot that nothing will help him.

I'm not sure how that's contradicting myself.

My point was that simply purchasing a DSLR won't make you a better shooter. Learning the artform and proper technique are more important than any piece of equipment.

But on the other hand, the DSLR is still a great tool for artists and shouldn't be dismissed because it has certain limitations.
 
First off, it's something of a technical forum. I'm always surprised by how much we remind ourselves that equipment doesn't make movies. I mean looking at how many awful movies were shot on film will teach us that.

But the discussion of what technologies at our resource levels will help us make better movies is always valuable, as long as, yes, we understand that story and performances and locations are more important.

Also, it's entirely possible that DSLRS will make us better filmmakers, at least better than if we were using camcorders or low-end prosumer gear. Some people have compared the process to shooting 16mm in the past or something like that and I see some validity there. The limitations, the manual focus, the shallow DOF, the interchangeable lenses, the dual system sound...it's a more immersive and substantial training ground requiring more effort and study from us than anything in the same price range. We learn more about the photography part of things than we otherwise might, and while we're not all trying to be DPs, I think this is useful.

With six months of HV30 ownership, I learned to keep the camera steady and a few things about framing. In my first few months of DSLR ownership I leanred about f-stops and ISOs and lenses and exposure and pulling focus and focal lengths...I feel now like I could be on the set of a large feature film and not be completely lost.
 
With six months of HV30 ownership, I learned to keep the camera steady and a few things about framing. In my first few months of DSLR ownership I leanred about f-stops and ISOs and lenses and exposure and pulling focus and focal lengths...I feel now like I could be on the set of a large feature film and not be completely lost.

In my opinion, the fact that you get to learn this things in the process of shooting is where the greatest strength of the HDSLRs is found.
 
I mean looking at how many awful movies were shot on film will teach us that.

Did you ever see the movie "Punisher"?

:)

If you were one of the unfortunate people who made it through that movie, you'll know what I mean!

:)
 
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