Who has used Plural Eyes

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jrod81

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hey guys
i am planning to use plural eyes to line up my audio files with my footage. just curious if i can do all my editing first and then match it up or is the software not that good? what is the easiest process for making this happen? i have tons of footage and tons of audio... what is the best way to match em up?
thanks
jared
 
I don't know but I think long tracks will be easy to sync than short edited clips. You can download the demo and try it.
 
i guess in my head it make sense to edit the visuals and get them the way i like and then be able to lay down the audio track on top of that edit... otherwise, in my head, you have to sync an entire clip when all i need is like 5 seconds of the audio for only 5 seconds of the clip... that make sense?
 
dont edit first because PE throws your clips all over the timeline !

chuck your material on the TL, press synch, have a beer, and be ready to edit

watch the PE demo vids

ps I dont think it works very well in all situations

S
 
just watched the bloom tutorial... i will see if i can find other tutorials, but what seems overwhelming to me is that he brings the entire 1 hour interview into FCP as one large file... i guess the easiest thing would be to divide up that clip into FCP as individual clips... man, i have put alot into this working... good God I hope i didn't screw myself...
 
Syncing isn't that big a deal even if you have to do in manually and give up on Plural Eyes. Do it first, then edit.
 
PE screwed up syncing for 1 clip by 2 frames one time... out of hundreds of clips, it's been doing me well ever since.
 
okay so i am about to start editing. my plan is to edit scene by scene in different sequences and then once everything is done put them together into one timeline... so, is this the correct way of going about this process:
1. Take all footage from a scene and using MPEG streamclip transcode it all to Pro Res
2. Pull all the pro res files into FCP
3. Pull all the files from the Zoom into FCP
4. Then put every single take from the day on a timeline... and then put all the audio from the zoom on the timeline and hit sync... walk away, let it do its thing
5. Clean up the timeline getting rid of all the excess footage or audio that didn't match or wasn't needed
6. Turn that timeline into a QT file (someone tell me the exporting options please).
7. Bring that QT file into FCP as a long, huge, very long take and start dividing it up within FCP
8. Once everything is divided up, now i can finally start editing the story?

man that seems like quite a process to have to do on every single scene. but i don't mind to do it just want to make sure there is not a more efficient way of going about it.
thanks guys
jared
 
jrod81 said:
so, is this the correct way of going about this process
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No one workflow fits all situations, so you need to say more about your project:
1. What codec(s) are you using? You may not need to transcode to ProRes.
2. Is this a multicamera project or single camera with dual-system audio?
3. Assuming it is multicamera, do you want to edit using multiclips or a layered timeline? If the latter, you probably don't need to export to a QuickTime reference movie.
 
Let's see...what might be a good NLE that runs on Windows for Plural Eyes to develope a plugin for????

:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)
 
1. I am using ProRes after other posts from other members have led me that way. It is my thesis film and who knows... I might put it out to film one day- ha ha
2. In a couple scenes we did have two 7d for two separate angles, but for the most part this is a single camera with dual system audio...
3. if i do export as a QT reference, i don't lose any quality there right? i mean it is referencing the prores files right?




gauss256 said:
No one workflow fits all situations, so you need to say more about your project:
1. What codec(s) are you using? You may not need to transcode to ProRes.
2. Is this a multicamera project or single camera with dual-system audio?
3. Assuming it is multicamera, do you want to edit using multiclips or a layered timeline? If the latter, you probably don't need to export to a QuickTime reference movie.
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I realize that in an ideal world I would have done all my sync first, but I have got 3 scenes edited already because i was not originally planning on buying plural eyes. Is there anything I can do now that those are edited to get pluraleyes to sync the chopped up clips? I went thru and wrote down each corresponding audio file name from the zoom h4n that was the audio for the 7d clips. Then I lined all those up on the timeline and I think it freaked Plural Eyes out...
any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
jared
 
If you're asking for detailed help with PluralEyes I suggest you go to the Singular Software support page and send in the information that is described there. It is hard to tell from the information you've posted exactly what you've done and what happened.
 
How does this workflow sound.

1. Bring the 7d clips into FCP without converting. Leave them as H.264.
2. Sync the clean 2nd system audio to each clip however you like (I don't mind doing it manually because i use this time to get aquatinted with the performances).
3. Export as QT leaving the video "as is" (H.246) but now each clip has the clean audio. This export is fast since there's no conversion.
4. Now you have files that are ready to be converted to whatever you plan to use (FCP, Avid ....) and these files can serve as your back up complete with clean audio.
 
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