C300: Who else went from the FS7 to C300 MKII ?

[chappelldigital]

Have you ever dealt with Sony menus, under duress, in a hurry? Ergonomics go way beyond a shoulder pad and handgrip.

I shoot weddings every weekend with my FS7 -> The C-Series camera menus are easier - 100% agree.
But if you are an owner/op it gives you enough time with the camera to be fast enough to not miss anything because of the menus. SO simple to get in and out of any framerate now as well!

 

[abreu-canedo]

Not sure why we have to argue about which camera is "better". We all know the price. We all know what the specs are. We all know what the form factor are. We all know the menu structures, colorimeter and resulting images. Plenty good stuff can be captured with both cameras. Both cameras have their ups and downs. Plus, no big or medium scripted narrative is gonna touch either of these cameras for their production. They are both owner-op, low end doc, reality and low end corporate / wedding cameras for the most part. The folks using these cameras for scripted narratives are probably still operating in those worlds too.

Just grab a camera, any camera you want it makes sense for you to get, and shoot. Puredrifting, best of luck on your new project. I hope it is all you wish for and more. Others, best of luck on all your projects too. I get it that it. An feel like a personal attack when someone doesn't like a camera we own. Makes us feel like we gotta come in defense of it or something. But let's leave the generic camera bickering at the door. This is the type of stuff that brings down the productivity of the forum. If fyiu have left the fs7 for the c300II, it's ok to share your opinions. Let's have a discussion around what personal needs are and how different cameras have worked or not worked for you in different production scenarios. But realize that opinions are opinions and let's allow each other to have and express them without hearing or telling them as gospel.

Ok, I know this might offend some, and I apologize in advance. Just trying to keep things in perspective here. These are just cameras and some posts on this forum are just plain rude. No, not every post. No, not everyone. There is a lot of great stuff getting said on this forum, even on this thread. That's why I keep coming back.

 

[Eric Coughlin]

Haven't used the C300ii extensively - but one thing that drove me insane on one of my shoots with it was the damn viewfinder being crooked ALL THE TIME - for a camera so expensive you think they'd have more than a piece of crap plastic mount for the entire top viewfinder section!! Ergonomics my @$$ lol what a pain

Well, comparing to the FS7 which doesn't even have a dedicated viewfinder, though.

I find I use my C100 Mark II viewfinder more than my C300 Mark II viewfinder. The C100 Mark II is a great weight to cradle and use the viewfinder as it was designed for, while the C300 Mark II is heavier and is more wanting of a shoulder mount, where the viewfinder then becomes useless. Also, when I'm using the C300 Mark II, I'm more likely to be using heavier accessories, cinema zoom lens, etc., such that again, cradling it no longer works.

And, the C300 Mark II's LCD screen is very bright, so I typically don't have a problem seeing it when outside thus making my need for the viewfinder less important. I have the Z-finder for the C300 Mark II but hardly ever use it; too much of a pain to take on and off, and I prefer using a hood when it's extra bright outside.

 

[remsyatassi]

So, what is your point? That an FS7 is as good as an Alexa? I don't think that's your point.

Sure, in certain circumstances rushes can be indistinguishable between cameras, but obviously there's a lot more to an image and other factors than rushes for particular shots.

I think his point is FS7 image looks quite good and holds up well beside much more expensive cameras.

Well, comparing to the FS7 which doesn't even have a dedicated viewfinder, though.

I find I use my C100 Mark II viewfinder more than my C300 Mark II viewfinder. The C100 Mark II is a great weight to cradle and use the viewfinder as it was designed for, while the C300 Mark II is heavier and is more wanting of a shoulder mount, where the viewfinder then becomes useless. Also, when I'm using the C300 Mark II, I'm more likely to be using heavier accessories, cinema zoom lens, etc., such that again, cradling it no longer works.

And, the C300 Mark II's LCD screen is very bright, so I typically don't have a problem seeing it when outside thus making my need for the viewfinder less important. I have the Z-finder for the C300 Mark II but hardly ever use it; too much of a pain to take on and off, and I prefer using a hood when it's extra bright outside.

Why pay for an expensive viewfinder you never use? The loupe on the FS7 is fiddly but it works very well outside and the screen is pretty good.

C300ii looks great but the FS7 is no slouch. When treated well they are indistinguishable.

 

[Bern Caughey]

Yeah, I wish you the best too in getting the budget to shoot on not-FS7 so your images don't all look like crud, in which case you'd have to sell your product on content alone.

And now for some cat videos maybe shot on the Sony FS7...

So, what is your point?

Rebuffing your bias.

 

[cane141]

I'm on the fence about FS7 vs. C300 Mk II vs. waiting for something else. I currently shoot on the C300 Mk I. I'm curious as to why you think the ergonomics of the C300 Mk II are superior to the FS7. Genuinely curious as just from looking it seems to me the FS7 may be better in that department.

I used the FS7 for 2 years but as soon as i picked up the C300 MK II, I instantly felt comfortable even though I know the FS7 too well and started using it like an extension of my hand
I know all the quirks from when the FS7 just decides to crash and pulling out the battery to re-boot to certain to the MB speed booster that decides to stop talking to certain lenses mid interview and generally the cheap plastic bits like the mic holder and replacing the handle grip twice from wear and tear. I also didn't really go for that side extension grip that much.

Before the FS7, I used the C100 and RED EPIC MX and so I like that form factor for handheld and mostly the menus and the feel of the camera in situations kept me a little frustrated but C300 MK II so far feels pretty solid.