Where's the New Panasonic Large Sensor Camera?

Gary Huff said:
The most typical example is that people commonly have yellow/greenish tints to their skin tone if you don't white balance the shots, which many of those claiming Canon has better color or some "magical" image mojo can't ever seem to avoid.
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Why are you not white balancing? As a professional, I would think you'd be well aware that white balancing is part of the composition process. Underexposing, overexposing or not white balancing is user error. Putting that aside, why is it important to you to convince me that my opinion is wrong?

Your argument that the camera can't auto white balance in the way you'd like is not going to change my 3 years of shooting experience with it along with 2 years of comparing it to the AF100. Good luck to you on all your future productions!
 
Gary Huff said:
which many of those claiming Canon has better color or some "magical" image mojo can't ever seem to avoid
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...I've always felt that many of the Canon fans are not keen on post-production color grading, which is why they love the "Canon" look that comes straight out of the camera.

Once you incorporate post-production grading, you can make almost any footage look good with the right tools and talent.

Aliasing and moire are the two huge drawbacks of the lower cost ( and older ) Canon cameras, that forced me to sell my 60D and all my Canon lenses to switch over to the GH2.
 
TheDingo said:
...I've always felt that many of the Canon fans are not keen on post-production color grading, which is why they love the "Canon" look that comes straight out of the camera.
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Except that the look straight out of the camera (epecially when using color balance presets) is terrible. Which is why I feel that most Canon fans (especially those that drop phrases like "Canon look" or "great Canon color" can't see anything past the shallow DOF.
 
TheDingo said:
...I've always felt that many of the Canon fans are not keen on post-production color grading, which is why they love the "Canon" look that comes straight out of the camera.
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I don't know anyone who shoots on DSLRs professionally who doesn't color grade. Aliasing and moire can be controlled just like anything else, but you're right, it's not ideal. I'm not saying the Canon DSLRs are ideal for every situation. My opinion is that I prefer the look of them to that of the AF100. I also prefer a hacked GH2 to an AF100.

Saying that people who enjoy Canon cameras are too lazy to color grade or like Gary said "can't see past shallow DOF" are ad-hominem fallacies that attack the users of the camera for having limited taste or being inept.
 
I would say a Canon DLSR skews to yellow but not as soon as on the AF100. If you know how to expose on either camera you can steer clear of skew.
 
NVentive said:
if you put a basic system in the hands of a master, and an advanced system in the hands of someone who is still developing their skills, not all things are equal. Not only will the emerging DP not get his lighting/exposure/framing/etc quite right, but the entire workflow of the developing team will have issues as well. Color timing, encoding, and a long list of other factors will sneak into the mix to make it a little tricky to tell who shot with what. In the end, of course, the only thing that really matters (to me, anyway) is whether I enjoyed watching the project.
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Ought to be tattood as a sticky on some T-Shirts ! This perennial truism seems to elude the emerging talents of our consumer society... year after year.
 
tipota said:
I wonder if construction workers have fist fights over what percussion drills they use? Hilti vs. Black&Decker?
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Probably not so much, but don't get in the middle of a bunch of musicians arguing about their instruments, or car nuts discussing their rides.

- Greg
 
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