7D where to Buy or Rent Prop-guns

Hey guys, sorry to mention this but check the laws of your state.

For example its illegal in New York to have a replica gun, toy or model or anything unless it matches two requirements
a) must be bright yellow/red etc ie plastic toy looking
b) cannot be in the same shape as a real gun (cos ppl spray paint 'em and go mug someone)

Yeh I know I'm sounding like a boring old safety conscious freak ....
 
Can you perhaps guide me to a shop that might sell me the old model with Full Flash out the Front barrel. bcmavila@yahoo.com This is my email Address contact me if you want to sell any if Legal..
 
Hi guys

You might find this little clip interesting that we did a few weeks back with a guncam made from Redrock accessories. Lots of fun, and we really thought the point of view was pretty cool

http://bit.ly/9PNPRj

Cheers

Brian
 
airsoft works fine for me as lnog as you dont care about blanks. On screeni really dont think you can tell the difference.

At a trip to the local flea market they had a TON of cheap (bootleg?) airsoft stuff. Nice glock handgun replicas for as cheap as $4

Ak and M4 reps were like $29, and shottys were around $20-24

i know where im going nextg time i need some stuff

Cool man, I'm in Houston too, which fleamarket? I've been ordering from ebay and it's been hit and miss. I need to re-up on airsofts, I loan em out all the time and they get broken constantly.
 
"Brandon Lee died from a blank. ((THE CROW))"


Yeah, sort of.

A very tragic chain of events lead to his death. Always triple check when working with firearms.
 
That was BADASS Brian!!!
Thnx

Cool thanks. We have a couple tips as the result of our shooting:

1. the 5D works better than the 7D because you need a fairly wide field of view. We ended up with a 25mm which works great because it's wide enough to capture everything, but doesn't have that cheap-o 'fisheye' vibe to it.

2. moving the camera off to the side slightly and angling it back towards the gun/person works best . you can experiment with exactly how far out you want to go.

3. natural movements need to be exaggerated to get the effect. For example, in the scene where he's raising the gun above his head he needed to really stretch so you saw all of his head.

Hope that helps

B
 
I've seen a number of movies featuring guns made by carving out a block of soap, and then using black shoe polish to get the coloring just right. From what I remember, you need to make sure it isn't raining on the day of the shoot, or get nervous and start sweating. This also rules out any shoot-outs that take place in a car-wash.
 
The best part of using modelguns is that they are completely safe, unlike using blanks.

If you're talking about PFC model guns, my understanding is that nothing that barrel-vents is "completely safe". Barrel debris can still be launched out fast enough to bruise or penetrate. Even the gas itself can have enough force behind it to cause damage.
 
Prop Gun Overview:

Airsoft -- Digital muzzle flash often looks corny, especially at night. Big second hand community, easy resale. Non-blowback examples are cheap. Blowback ones often aren't a whole lot cheaper than...

Blank firing replicas -- Can be dangerously loud in the wrong environment/situation. Usually have blocked barrels so gas and (humble if anything) muzzle flash vents out from some other ridiculous direction that appears especially silly in low light. A little bit of recoil, depending on the MM but the actor will probably still have to compensate. Small second hand market. Hard to re-sell given the big auction site restrictions and shipping (international, in particular) restrictions.

PFC model gun -- EXPENSIVE! Not that loud which means you can use them in more locations (and also means you'll have to supply your own sound FX in post). No recoil, so again, it's all up to the actors. Muzzle flash/smoke ejects from the barrel which looks great but some of the models I've seen also spit a lot sparks from the cylinder/breech/ejector, which doesn't. Generally, the longer the barrel, the less muzzle/smoke effect you'll get, something to keep in mind if that's important to you. The caps fire "dirty" so you will have to clean these guns as, if not more, frequently than the real deal. Depending on the complexity of the model, if you don't know what you're doing you could easily disassemble them to such a degree that you would need help putting them back together. Minuscule second hand scene, hard to resell.

Real gun with blank ammunition -- There are many types of real guns that require no modification to fire blanks. These are often, strangely, a cheaper proposition than the blank firing replicas or PFC model guns. They are also inherently more dangerous given they can be loaded with real rounds as well as fake. More variety in blanks, including ones designed to emit varying levels of exaggerated muzzle flash. Obviously, real guns will have the most trouble with laws/permits/licenses etc. Easy resell.


All of the above could get you killed or arrested if you use them in the wrong place at the wrong time. With the exception of the airsoft they are also all capable of maiming/killing if used inappropriately.



I leave anything out?
 
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