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Just for grins:

SHOT A (Scene File 1)
1-scene file 1.jpg

SHOT B (V-log L)
2-vlogl.jpg

SHOT B + V-log to V709 LUT
3-vlog-v709.jpg

Gee, I wonder if my DVX200 is broken. :|

Why do they look different? Because using V-log is not a flat gamma version of any Scene File. It is it's own thing and so Scene File 1 and V-Log L can't be judged the same way, nor will they render colors the same way. Think of the DVX200 always shooting in log. Now imagine all the Scene File Settings are all basically LUTs applied to it. That's not what's happening, but it's one way of seeing how they should be treated differently. Also, using the V-log to V709 lut is only a starting point...and not the right one for every single project, either. I rarely use it, myself.

ADDENDUM:

I don't want to be the last word after Barry's last word...so, I'm going to answer a question here. Pa-recordz asked "Did you use the internal recorder?" just before Barry interjected. Here is my answer:

Yes. Internal DCI 4K 8-bit 4:2:0. I used my DVX200 completely stripped-down...even used the stock sunhood. I did an initial set on the scene file settings so they were factory-set. Used the "Normal" color tone, instead of the v1.4 one. Handheld with OIS. 12.8mm at f/2.8, ISO 1000, no ND. Cool evening sun through a window with arctic-white curtains. No practical lights. No movie lights. Black-balanced, then white-balanced off the slate (not the white on the clapper). The clapper/slate is leaning up against a Fujinon B4 ENG lens. The dinner tray table is some kind of dark wood, most likely a finished mahogany. There are examples of other, lighter wood colors in the background. The wall is sort of a cream color. As I suspected, the V-Log to V709 LUT made the blues cyan. Why? Because the LUT was never intended for the DVX200, as Barry said. That's why saying "for DVX200" is incorrect, and it's why I rarely use it.
 
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JRJphoto said:
Just for grins:


Why do they look different? Because using V-log is not a flat gamma version of any Scene File. It is it's own thing and so Scene File 1 and V-Log L can't be judged the same way, nor will they render colors the same way. Think of the DVX200 always shooting in log. Now imagine all the Scene File Settings are all basically LUTs applied to it. That's not what's happening, but it's one way of seeing how they should be treated differently. Also, using the V-log to V709 lut is only a starting point...and not the right one for every single project, either. I rarely use it, myself.
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Yes the V-Log ignores/bypasses any adjustments in the Scenefile Menue.
But i wonder that the V.Log is looking right for me (on the Camera display) if i turn on the V-Log View Assist. Which is only a Monitor LUT.
With this Log View Assist Blue is looking blue. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I asked Panasonic for this M-LUT so i can use this for my Premiere Pro. But they wont or couldnt send it to me. :/
This M-Lut would be a great starting point for grading beacuse the colors are shown more naturally than with the "VLog_to_V709_forDVX200_ver100" or any other LUT´s

Why i compare the V-Log to the Scenefile1 is that i think the colors are shown kind of naturaly with Scenefile1.
It is completly right when you say that I won´t get an 1:1 Color reproduction of the V Log and Scenefile1.

The main reason because i write in this forum is: Blue turns to Cyan. And if I Compare Your V-Log Clapboard with my V-Log Clapboard, your blue is more accurate to the original (what your eyes see)
tell me if I´m wrong.
Is it possible that you can upload your clapboard clips. obviously its the same clapboard I use.

I tried to create my own LUT at https://cameramanben.github.io/LUTCalc/LUTCalc/index.html
But if you use the Panasonic V-Gamut the colors are loooking horrible.
Do You know the Gamut of the DVX200 in the V Log L Mode?
The best Blue result i created was using the "ARRI Alexa Wide Gamut"

Rec Gamma: Panasonic V-Log
Rec Gamut: Arri Alexa Wide Gamut
Out Gamma: VLog_to_V709_forDVX200_ver100
Out Gamut: Rec 709

I ordered a Xrite Color Checker Video. I will compare my DVX200 to the other one i ordered. Maybe i get some results.
 
JRJphoto said:
Here ya go. Knock yourself out.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ygjrxuuqccg55p/AAAgvc8B7cOYdeUlDYOeHi4ga?dl=0

Mitch Gross? We need a Varicam 35 for this. And Barry Green. We need Mitch and Barry.
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I gave up on this post. PA might need help with lighting, and other technical issues, etc. No matter what you write, he seems to want to believe the DVX200 cannot take clean quality video. Blame the camera. He did not even shoot the color card properly. The poor guy is banging himself in the head. Roll 999 Scene 999 Take 999 and it will not help. Barry Green needs to address this. Going off the deep end.
 
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Well, look -- here's the thing:

1) There is no LUT in existence (that I know of) that will do what is being asked -- turn DVX200 VLOG-L into Rec709. It doesn't exist. Unless someone's made one that I don't know about.
2) The response you get will depend entirely on what color palette you have set. In the OTHER FUNCTION menu you can choose between "NATURAL" and "VERSION 1.4" -- they're extremely different color palettes. If JRJ is using VERSION 1.4 and pa-recordz is using NATURAL, then yes, you'd see significant differences between their results.
3) The light used is going to influence how the color is recorded. If you want proper results, use actual sunlight. If you want goofy unrepeatable unpredictable results, use cheap LEDs. Cheap LEDs do not emit the full spectrum of light and so they can influence or bias certain shades in the wrong direction.
4) The Varicam V709 LUT is not now going to, nor will it ever, render proper results on DVX200 footage. It won't, it cannot, it never could, and it never will. Why they recommend it is beyond me. It's completely wrong. And even if it was right, it's not a Rec709 LUT -- it's a V709 LUT, and V709 is not Rec709, it's a stylized, colorized version of Rec709 that's been tweaked on the Varicam to make it look more pleasing than standard Rec709. The DVX200 has an entirely different sensor, so its input to the LUT is different from what the Varicam inputs -- and different input = different output.

You can use the V709 LUT as a basic starting point, but it is only a basic starting point. It is not accurate. If you want an accurate LUT, someone is going to have to develop one specifically for the DVX200 (not the GH4, not the GH5, not the Varicam, the DVX200). I would think Panasonic should do it (obviously) but they so far haven't done so.

So if you're going to use VLOG-L, you're going to have to grade it yourself. You cannot rely on the existing LUTs to work properly, because they were not designed for the DVX200.
 
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