What are these bars?
- Thread starter roxics
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They are like gold stars. It shows how many likes you have. In the old system it weighted upvotes and downvotes to give you a number of orange squares. They changed from orange to blue with the move to the new software. They don't translate directly from the old system. I had about 7 bars in the old system. Mitch had who knows how many. In this system, they max out at 10 bars. I don't know why I have 10 now and 7 in the old system. Now I am at the same gold star level as Mitch. Not that I'm counting ....
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Peter C.
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Mitch Gross
Veteran
All I know is I was robbed.
groveChuck
U-matic Member
I think it in part utilises the old upvote / downvote system, although I am not sure how that is now tied to the like button. I know it's not posts because, well I should be full haha
Brent@DVXU
Administrator
Per vBulletin:
"Every 100 points of reputation gives a blue bar up to ten bars. This is hard coded.
Users earn reputation through likes. The amount of reputation received by a specific like is determined by the Reputation Power of the user giving the like."
"Every 100 points of reputation gives a blue bar up to ten bars. This is hard coded.
Users earn reputation through likes. The amount of reputation received by a specific like is determined by the Reputation Power of the user giving the like."
Mitch Gross
Veteran
So you're saying I've attained Taylor Swift level?
rob norton
Veteran
The older helpful up/down more satisfying. Mitch would know as well as anyone - if you came back to the same thread with "x out of x people found this post helpful."
Stacking those orange blocks was most of the motivation for me being more thoughtful with my posting. This is a joke but it still pushed me towards quality over quantity.
And for those who had a huge number of blocks but also massive post count, don't think for a second that the ratios don't come into it. Chris Young, for example had one of the highest rates of helpful posts vs. posts on the whole forum! Chances are, if Chris posts something, you'll be able to learn from it - same with Mitch, Charles, JB etc.
On the surface to newcomers, it looks like an easy way to identify if you're interacting with a video production demigod - not so fast! There were ways to game the system. If you replied to literally any firehawk post you were guaranteed an upvote. Or if you were first to post a press release for a new product you probably received upvotes. Well-received comments in the cafe section or shutting down unpopular opinions - more upvotes.
I don't know if the older system was better or just strangely more enjoyable.
On the flipside, why have any likes? If someone likes a post, why not leave it up to words in a reply to express gratitude that someone helped you?
I know people are liking posts, but I don't think as many people are into this new system. This goes beyond getting used to the new site, where initially everyone was kicking and screaming before coming around on the new look/UI.
For the reasons mentioned above, I strongly disagree with "Reputation Power". And what's the point in being able to max out? Once people have full bars, there's no differentiating beyond that.
Stacking those orange blocks was most of the motivation for me being more thoughtful with my posting. This is a joke but it still pushed me towards quality over quantity.
And for those who had a huge number of blocks but also massive post count, don't think for a second that the ratios don't come into it. Chris Young, for example had one of the highest rates of helpful posts vs. posts on the whole forum! Chances are, if Chris posts something, you'll be able to learn from it - same with Mitch, Charles, JB etc.
On the surface to newcomers, it looks like an easy way to identify if you're interacting with a video production demigod - not so fast! There were ways to game the system. If you replied to literally any firehawk post you were guaranteed an upvote. Or if you were first to post a press release for a new product you probably received upvotes. Well-received comments in the cafe section or shutting down unpopular opinions - more upvotes.
I don't know if the older system was better or just strangely more enjoyable.
On the flipside, why have any likes? If someone likes a post, why not leave it up to words in a reply to express gratitude that someone helped you?
I know people are liking posts, but I don't think as many people are into this new system. This goes beyond getting used to the new site, where initially everyone was kicking and screaming before coming around on the new look/UI.
For the reasons mentioned above, I strongly disagree with "Reputation Power". And what's the point in being able to max out? Once people have full bars, there's no differentiating beyond that.
Mitch Gross
Veteran
Gotta say, I didn't notice the old orange blocks or consider their significance for years.I think I had 8 or 9 when I realized what they were. Not against them just wasn't why I was here contributing.
Jaime Valles
Veteran
I'm only posting here so I can see how many blue bars I have now.
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Guest
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I hated the likes and votes. Still do. I like words. Words good. Thoughts good. Copy/paste/click/consume bad.
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Guest
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BTW, really thought this was going to be a discussion about SMPTE
rob norton
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vote with your words.
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Guest
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Likes and votes allow for a form of mob rule, as anyone with more votes is typically just someone that is more liked. the down votes especially prevented some discussions, as any opposing thought or other points of view would sometimes get voted down.
voting and likes says this is a forum, but you can hide and never share a thought.
There is also the gamifying aspect, that people post for likes, and that changes what people post. less technical and more likable.
At a first glance it might also seem to help keep people civil, but it actually prevents some discussions from being civil or intelligent. seeing likes (and especially the down votes) adds an emotion to the discussions that causes more sensitive types to withdraw. Then the only ones arguing are the ones that just don’t care about public approval. Also getting likes seems to incentivize trolling. only have to troll funny enough to get a couple likes.
voting and likes says this is a forum, but you can hide and never share a thought.
There is also the gamifying aspect, that people post for likes, and that changes what people post. less technical and more likable.
At a first glance it might also seem to help keep people civil, but it actually prevents some discussions from being civil or intelligent. seeing likes (and especially the down votes) adds an emotion to the discussions that causes more sensitive types to withdraw. Then the only ones arguing are the ones that just don’t care about public approval. Also getting likes seems to incentivize trolling. only have to troll funny enough to get a couple likes.