T2i What are hobbiest consumers doing with HD on this camera?

David G. Smith

David G. Smith

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I was just wondering. Besides the enthusiasm amongst filmmaker types, what are regular consumer/hobbiest doing with the HD on a camera like the T2i? Does consumer grade NLEs handle the footage? I mean at the price, I am sure that there are a lot of folks picking up the camera, and I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this?
 
1080p in H.264 is pretty consumer level. Even the flip does that. I would think that consumer level NLEs should be able to handle Flip level video.
 
Are you suggesting that there is no difference between footage shot on a T2i and that from a Flip? If not, I am not sure I understand what your point is.

Kevin
 
kwoff said:
Are you suggesting that there is no difference between footage shot on a T2i and that from a Flip? If not, I am not sure I understand what your point is.

Kevin
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As far as the NLE is concerned, no. If your NLE can handle the flip, it should be able to handle the T2i/7D/5D.
 
Most consumers that I know that have a t2i/7D are complaining about autofocus. I always get questions from friends of friends "why when I zoom is it out of focus?" sigh...
 
shaocaholica said:
As far as the NLE is concerned, no. If your NLE can handle the flip, it should be able to handle the T2i/7D/5D.
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That is kind of the question. I got bros that are having problems with flip footage in FCP7. I haven't been iMovie in a long time and have never opened iMovie HD, so I don't know about that. What is available at that level on Windows machines?

Also, are local schools jumping on the DSLR band wagon?
 
David G. Smith said:
I was just wondering. Besides the enthusiasm amongst filmmaker types, what are regular consumer/hobbiest doing with the HD on a camera like the T2i? Does consumer grade NLEs handle the footage? I mean at the price, I am sure that there are a lot of folks picking up the camera, and I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this?
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Not that many people are onto HDSLRs, there are still many people using traditional cameras. Also a start up kit with even a t2i will cost you well over $1000 now factor in everything else + an editing system, time, etc. I would say you have nothing to worry about.


It's more than a camera, you need to know how to use it, light well and tell good stories. The average person might shoot some descent footage but you basically have to dedicate your life to this to make a living from it.
 
I just film some skateboarding, little projects, ****ing aroundness.
It's by a long shot the perfect camera for this, but I thought the quality for the price (being only 17) was too good to deny.
 
I've noticed that there is still a stigma attached to DSLR's even among a lot of seemingly knowledgeable filmmakers, and people I've talked to outside of the film industry seem to think its absolutely absurd that someone would film a movie on a "digital camera."


Oh well.
 
Cieloent said:
Not that many people are onto HDSLRs, there are still many people using traditional cameras. Also a start up kit with even a t2i will cost you well over $1000 now factor in everything else + an editing system, time, etc. I would say you have nothing to worry about.


It's more than a camera, you need to know how to use it, light well and tell good stories. The average person might shoot some descent footage but you basically have to dedicate your life to this to make a living from it.
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Dude, I hope I didn't sound like I thought that I felt threatened by the hobbyist or regular consumer having this technology, and I thank you for reminding me that it takes more than than the right equipment to make it as a professional.

However, this HD-DSLR band wagon, ain't my first rodeo, as they say. I bought a T2i about 3 months ago, for about $1100.00 OTD, with kit lens, and cards. It just takes me back to my first "Big" camera purchase, which was for a Canon 1014 XLS Super 8mm camera, in 1989, for $1300.00. Now, this camera more than paid for itself shooting commercials and music videos during the "Super 8 Renaissance" of the early 90's. Not to mention the great learning experience that shooting small format reversal film gave me. The image reproduction of digital video is very much like reversal film, IMHO, and I am so glade that I had that experience.

I shot my first feature, on color negative 16mm, with an Arri SR-II, in 1994, and the switch from shooting reversal film, in Super 8 and 16mm, to shooting with color negative to was another great learning experience. However, while we were finishing up this film, on an editing bench and on a local film collective flat bed, something changed. A little camera called the Sony VX1000 dropped, and the revolution, that we are now discussing, had arrived. I have shot 3 more features, on DV, and a lot of music videos, commercials, corporate communications projects and event videos using what was, in 1995, supposed to be a "Consumer" format. The thing is, these so called "Consumer" cameras that I have shot with have all been well north of $3grand in price. I wake up in 2010, and find that Canon has another little camera, the Rebel T2i, for less than I paid for a Canon Super 8mm camera 21 years prior, with image quality that is being compared, on a widely viewed internet camera comparisons "Shoot Out", to 35mm film. I was wondering how consumers, albeit rather affluent consumers, are using this amazing little camera. I will be the first to admit that I am a film/video "Bottom Feeder", and am a guerrilla filmmaker, at best. However, the democratization of quality video images is a great thing, IMHO.
 
David G. Smith said:
Dude, I hope I didn't sound like I thought that I felt threatened by the hobbyist or regular consumer having this technology, and I thank you for reminding me that it takes more than than the right equipment to make it as a professional.

However, this HD-DSLR band wagon, ain't my first rodeo, as they say. I bought a T2i about 3 months ago, for about $1100.00 OTD, with kit lens, and cards. It just takes me back to my first "Big" camera purchase, which was for a Canon 1014 XLS Super 8mm camera, in 1989, for $1300.00. Now, this camera more than paid for itself shooting commercials and music videos during the "Super 8 Renaissance" of the early 90's. Not to mention the great learning experience that shooting small format reversal film gave me. The image reproduction of digital video is very much like reversal film, IMHO, and I am so glade that I had that experience.

I shot my first feature, on color negative 16mm, with an Arri SR-II, in 1994, and the switch from shooting reversal film, in Super 8 and 16mm, to shooting with color negative to was another great learning experience. However, while we were finishing up this film, on an editing bench and on a local film collective flat bed, something changed. A little camera called the Sony VX1000 dropped, and the revolution, that we are now discussing, had arrived. I have shot 3 more features, on DV, and a lot of music videos, commercials, corporate communications projects and event videos using what was, in 1995, supposed to be a "Consumer" format. The thing is, these so called "Consumer" cameras that I have shot with have all been well north of $3grand in price. I wake up in 2010, and find that Canon has another little camera, the Rebel T2i, for less than I paid for a Canon Super 8mm camera 21 years prior, with image quality that is being compared, on a widely viewed internet camera comparisons "Shoot Out", to 35mm film. I was wondering how consumers, albeit rather affluent consumers, are using this amazing little camera. I will be the first to admit that I am a film/video "Bottom Feeder", and am a guerrilla filmmaker, at best. However, the democratization of quality video images is a great thing, IMHO.
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Great post! I just thought that if someone had so much experience why would they even care?

I personally do Music Videos and people with this same camera T2i have no idea what they are doing and are constantly asking me questions, so it just falls back to it's only a tool and you have to know how to use it.

Regardless much respect to you and your career, but me personally I do not worry about the little fish on the pond when I'm a killer whale already in the ocean.......
 
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