Wedding Videography at 60p on HVX200

tak1108 said:
I'm glad I saw this thread. I didn't realize I could create Blu-Ray Discs. You couldn't with DVDSP4 on 5.1, but on 6 you can. so that super cool.
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I'm still trying to confirm that and the workflow.

If the OP can detail the workflow, I'd be happy to write a tutorial.

I have a copy of Lacie's blu ray burner, Toast 8, and DVD SP 4.2 and Compressor 3.

But the OP is still a little light on exactly what is authored with what and with what menus, etc.
 
OMG . . . I am sooo sorry you guys! On the blu-ray software/workflow side of things, I was speaking for someone else. I have not physically done the final authoring of our last couple of HD projects (delivered on blu-ray). I handed over the final files to one of my colleagues to deliver. I had the application titles that we have used for years stuck in my mind.

I had a good technical talk with him and discovered that there is NOT blu-ray support, even for the most recent version of DVDSP! Can you believe this? And, we all know that Toast Titanium 8 only burns DATA discs. How frustrating!

My colleague was given a tryout version a few months ago for the new Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 that includes the new Adobe Encore CS3. This is the authoring application! Again, I apologize for the confusion. Sorry, sorry, sorry. ;-) The final retail version of this is supposed to be shipping any time now through the beginning of July. Hopefully it'll come soon and I'll purchase the retail version for sure!

Has anyone else been able to try out the new Adobe Encore CS3 authoring solution? How would you compare it to DVDSP? I know it has blu-ray authoring capabilities. Menus? Does anyone know?

Thanks guys . . . and please don't be too mad at me for getting my information wrong. Especially to David, I apologize. Sorry for getting people excited over nothing.
 
I think I know what you are talking about and I shot a concert a year ago with the same workflow that you are trying to do. Basically I wanted to shoot the concert with the option to turn any shot into slowmotion.. while also recording the audio as well. So it's really pretty simple. I shot everything like Barry said with the 60p and got the audio. Then.. what I did was use the 60p as if it were normal speed on timelines and through rendering and that. Then.. when there I was a part or a shot that I wanted it to be in slow motion, I duplicated the footage then I changed the timebase from the 59.98 through cinematools to the 24p.. hence then the slow-motion. On a follow up job... I just duplicated every shot and then had one at the 60p and then in cinematools, I had one converted into the 24p timebase slow-motion option.

Really just a couple of extra steps... The data is a killer though as you'll only get the one minute per gig situation... Hope this helps though... think it might
 
Thanks Justyn, I appreciate your comments! That's exactly what I want to do and exactly the mindset that I am in. ;-) I want to be able to turn any shot into true slow motion (at 30p or even 24p). I had not thought of Cinema Tools as an option. A great idea! And you edited on a 59.98 timeline. Thanks again. ;-)
 
clipgloss said:
I had a good technical talk with him and discovered that there is NOT blu-ray support, even for the most recent version of DVDSP! Can you believe this? And, we all know that Toast Titanium 8 only burns DATA discs. How frustrating!
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Really?

Kinda of what I've saying all along, isn't it?

I also took a bunch of heat from you about as well when trying to assist.

Anyway, good luck
 
You can also use the FRC in FCP to convert 60 to 24 for slow motion.

I'm also aware of a tutorial that permits a ramp up or down using AE 7
 
Thanks for being a good guy, David. ;-) You haven't had the opportunity to review the new Premiere Pro CS3 with Encore CS3, have you? Do you have plans to? I'd love to hear what your thoughts were.
 
David S. said:
You can also use the FRC in FCP to convert 60 to 24 for slow motion.

I'm also aware of a tutorial that permits a ramp up or down using AE 7
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Thanks David! So many different ways to accomplish the same thing. Which do you guys think is the best in regards to quality? In regards to easiness and/or less steps? 1) FRC 2) Cinema Tools 3) Ramping up or down - speed control
 
Encore's blu ray capabilities is one thing I am interested in.

However, the Production version isn't shipping until late next month, and Encore wasn't included in the beta version.

Also the premiere beta version only support NTSC DV.

As an aside, 4.2 will author HD DVD discs, and a player runs about $300.00 from Toshiba.

You can get about 45 minutes of h.264 on the DVD 5 red laser dye and it looks like broadcast HD.
 
Interesting. Thanks for the info on the H.264 HD on DVD-5. To accomplish this, does one need to purchase special DVD-5 media? Or, is the "red laser" an item within DVDSP?
 
No special media required.

Just a Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden quality disc, and a normal DVD burner.

I've not tested with DL discs, but others have and report good results.

Using 10.3 mbps h.264 encoding, and AC3/dolby2 sound, it looks very very good.

We did a college athletics recruitment DVD for SD, and gave them a sample of a HD disc as well. Showed it with a Toshiba HD DVD A1 on a 50 inch plasma via HDMI.

A whole bunch of wows. The slow motion footage of a long TD pass in light snow with a little bit of filtered sunlight was stunning.
 
BTW, the current DVD Player application on the Mac does not play HD-DVD video, does it? Also, in DVDSP when creating your HD-DVDs to be burned on DVD-5 (or 9) the menus work, correct?
 
It plays DVD SP encoded HD DVDs discs, but no commercial ones.

The menus work with 4.1.2 or later, and with a Toshiba A1 with the latest firmware.

The Toshiba is a little finicky with HDMI connections at times with our Samsung

Works great with our Pioneer Elite however
 
I believe that I did use a 59.98 timeline... BUT if you throw it into a 30p or 24p without changing the timebase, you will have to render it, but it will be playing normal speed. Then you can grab the file that you converted to 24 or 30 through cinematools and that would be in slow-motion.

I used to use the FRC on FCP but it's slow... CInematools is instant and a lot more easy to understand. I believe you can also batch convert the files so that saves time. Cinematools rocks for this kind of stuff. Make SURE Though that you save one version in the 60p and then one in the converted as I believe you can't change back to 60p when it's been converted to the cinematools timebase..

Glad this helped and I understand what you are trying to do.. My clients were happy to have that as an option...


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Thank you Justyn and David for your comments! You have been a lot of help with your explanations and comments on past experiences. ;-)
 
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