Wedding scene settings

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Dakkar

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Well, I'm going to do the video for a wedding this week-end. I'm still debating which recording settings to use. I'm hesitating between 1080 60i 1080 30p or 720 60p. I'd like to be able to use the Dynamic Range Stretch or the Knee if it is really sunny. Should the DRS be left on for inside shots as well?


Lastly, how the heck can I edit the metadata so as to put my info (name, location, event ect...)?

Thanks!:)
 
I don't use i (interlaced)... so that gives you 1080/30 and 720/60. Do 60p if you are going to overcrank for slowmo's, 1080/30 is safe and 1080/24 if you want a film look, but is more involved.
 
Try Cine-D (it kind of has DRS built in). I've recently started using this with 720 25p and 720 50p for slo mo.

Using 720 25p has the benefit of much smaller files when converted to Pro Res LT.
 
My Canon XHA1 doesn't offer 720p60. Among different frame rates, I wouldn't go with 1080i60. 30p is my choice. It has a semi film look. 24p is just too stuttering.
 
1080_30p for best resolution and color.
it also gives you the most room to work with in post for reframing or faking zooms/pans if you edit in a 720p or smaller project.

i shot my first wedding with cine-D, but got horrible dark/red lowlight results.
going to shoot my next one with the cine-V which i've already proven gives me a better picture.

as for DRS, i've learned to live without it. i thought it was absolutely necessary for a 'perfect' image, but have gotten great shots without it. i wouldn't get too fixated on having to use it, ie, don't let it limit your decision.
 
It's a little scary you are asking this so close to a shoot. Be sure whatever you are shooting in can be edited on your NLE. For instance, it would be a mistake to shoot 720P60 if you were editing in Sony Vegas.

I agree with averan that 1080P30 would be best, generally. I would shoot in the F1 setting with mostly flat, HD norm settings unless you have been shooting some settings you know works well. Setting the knee to low is always a good idea IMO and never causes problems.

Hopefully you are shooting with more than 1 camera, so think about matching the mode (60i, 30P, etc.) and look of that camera to the HMC-150. Remember that the 150 will be much better in indoor/low light and the cameras wont match well, but you can deal with it.

You have to edit the metadata with the camera connecterd to the PC and the Pana program running. Not worth the trouble IMO.
 
changed my mind!
after another round of pixel-peeping and frame grab comparisons,
i'm going to shoot today's wedding with a custom scene file:
gamma - HDnorm
matrix - cine
knee - low
masterped - -7

and with some added detail, vcoring and chroma level.

i find myself boosting contrast a lot in post, so in order to save time i'm going to shoot closer to the final image i want.
 
Well, thanks for the comments, and yes it was a bit last minute. Fortunately, this one was not a paid job but a gift for a family member, so no sweat.

I did 720 60p and yes, I am editing in Vegas. Just had to create a custom preset as none were in the list. Hope it won't come out too bad.

I also ran into the problem of the red in low light. In fact, I could not get a proper white balance because the camera would not do it. Very annoying.

Before
weddingred.jpg
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After
weddingcolorbalanced.jpg
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Any suggestion to improve this?

I guess I have to read up more on the scene settings...
 
what scene file were you shooting with?
cine-D?

i got better wb with cine-V and none of the red tones in lowlight.
 
b PRESS is my choice, keeps the blacks, black and also a tad cleaner in low light. I'm also using -20 master ped.
 
cine-d might give you more luminance, but its gonna be red.

i'm shooting mstrped = -7.
-20 seems too much to me, almost becomes 2-tone.
 
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