We Are Not Alone- Study: Billions of Earth-Size Planets in Milky Way

groveChuck

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Some pretty cool theories, considering how recently the first planets outside our solar system were discovered...
So all you need is a 1/17,000,000,000 chance of life, just in our galaxy? What are the odds??? :happy:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/study-billions-earth-size-planets-milky-18152982

By ALICIA CHANG AP Science Writer

Our Milky Way is home to at least 17 billion planets that are similar in size to Earth, a new estimate suggests. That's more than two Earth-size planets for every person on the globe.

Just how many are located in the sweet spot where water could exist is "simply too early to call," said Francois Fressin of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, who presented his work at an astronomy meeting Monday.

It's the first reliable tally of the number of worlds outside the solar system that are the size of Earth, but the hunt for our twin is far from over.
Despite the explosion of exoplanet discoveries in recent years, one find remains elusive: A planet that's not only the right size but also in the so-called Goldilocks zone where it's not too hot or too cold for water to be in liquid form on the surface.

The sheer number of Earth-size planets gives astronomers a starting point to narrow down which ones are in the habitable zone.

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Fressin and his team came up with their figure by conducting a fresh analysis of data collected by NASA's Kepler spacecraft, which was launched in 2009 to track down other Earths. They estimated at least one in six stars in the galaxy hosts a planet the size of ours, translating to at least 17 billion Earth-size worlds.

Using a different method, a team from the University of California, Berkeley and University of Hawaii separately came up with a similar estimate. They calculated 17 percent of distant stars have planets that are the same size as Earth or slightly larger.
The findings were presented at the American Astronomical Society in Long Beach, Calif.

Meanwhile, the Kepler spacecraft continues to spot planets as they pass between Earth and the star they orbit. It found 461 new candidate planets, bringing the total to 2,740 potential planets, said mission scientist Christopher Burke at the SETI Institute.
Most of the new Kepler finds were driven by discoveries of Earth-size planets and super-Earths. Four of those are thought to reside in the Goldilocks zone, but more observations are needed.

Fressin said it's clear that rocky planets abound outside the solar system.
"If you look up on a starry night, each star you're looking at — almost each one of them — has a planetary system," Fressin said.
 
What's always blown me away is just how recent our expanded view of the universe is. Not long ago scientists (and everybody else) thought it was roughly a billionth the size we now know (think?) it is... (so far... and expanding with our knowledge).
 
I am by no means a scientist, but I don't understand how the size of a planet would be related to whether it supports life or not. Isn't it just about what the planet is made of, proximity to it's star, a magnetic shield to repel radiation, etc?
 
What's always blown me away is just how recent our expanded view of the universe is. Not long ago scientists (and everybody else) thought it was roughly a billionth the size we now know (think?) it is... (so far... and expanding with our knowledge).
An expanding universe and expanding knowledge... sounds like a match made in heav... er, space!!!

I am by no means a scientist, but I don't understand how the size of a planet would be related to whether it supports life or not. Isn't it just about what the planet is made of, proximity to it's star, a magnetic shield to repel radiation, etc?
I'm no scientist either, but I would guess it's something to do with gravity and a similar composition and density of a nitrogen/oxygen atmosphere like ours?
This would be for carbon-based life. Silicon-based life, that's a whole 'nother story... :happy:
 
dont care, ill be long time dead when it will affect peoples lives in any way, it wont affect mine so... besides whats so great about planet with human beings, we have one here and people arent great to each other.only reason to look for planet with life is to take over hi tech.
That question" where we come from" dont matter at all, its not where you come from its who you are and we are hostile explorators, look up columbus in history book.
Theres still undiscovered animals on our own planet and nobody is excited about that when we discover new ones so i dont get that fascination, fake.
 
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This stuff depresses me. We're gathering all this knowledge on space, my head literally hurts when I'm trying to grasp the notion of universe being this infinite, shapeless space...whatever...and yet we still act, generally, as mindless buffoons here on Earth.

Not to mention camera manufacturers who deliberately won't crank up the bitrates and sensor capabilities on their products because they have a "improved" model lined up 6 months ahead and they don't want to impede the level up product line, probably because they've agreed on it at a huge round table, all while we take sides for their brands. We race to the bottom every day - and we talk about infinite space.

I hope we never get out there. I won't be able to cope with the daily influx of news about disputes and tensions between East Space and West Space...we don't deserve to move from this place.

:D
 
... Silicon-based life, that's a whole 'nother story... :happy:

Well, it's been around for awhile and yes it is scary.
For reference but take it for what it is, it's off the web (could be a complete fabrication which I suspect it is unless announced by Nasa which the headlines proclaim....
Maybe I have not searched enough to find an official Nasa post on this so until then I will assume it's a fraud.

http://gizmodo.com/5704158/nasa-finds-new-life
 
Gotta' throw out another bit of logic... I've always had to laugh at the people who think we're going to encounter intelligent life and have anything to teach them... or, for some reason, WE(?) will be the superior beings? Let me put it this way... on a timeline representing several billion years... scaled to the length of a football field... ALL of human experience would fit in a hair's width (not length)... at the very very end (there's nothing more recent than today).

Look at electricity... flight... the transistor... the odds are that we're the new kids in the universe... most likely by, at the very least, hundreds of thousands of years... if not millions.

And the funny thing is we'll fight over what computer platform somebody chooses... and kill each other over things not much more significant than that. So... yeah... let's mix it up by introducing ourselves to something with a few million years more advancements... and hope that they'll somehow see us as equals... instead of using the exact same socioeconomic and/or food-chain logic that we use to determine how other living things that live here are treated.

Go SETI! I'm sure that IF there were any success in it... that it would work out great for us.
 
It's all moot anyway. When looking at these things, it's not just about whether or not there is life out there, it's all about distance. Most galaxies are millions of light years away, and even places in our own galaxy are tens of thousands of light years away. So unless it is possible to go even faster than the speed of light (something that seems very unlikely), the chances of us actually having any contact with other living organisms is extremely small. That is of course unless humanity manages to survive for millions of years and systematically pushes further and further out into space. But for the foreseeable future, we are the top of the food chain for our tiny corner of space.
 
NASA estimates that there are at least 100 billion stars in the Milky Way, of which about four billion are similar to the Sun. If only 7% of these stars have habitable planets (a very conservative estimate), then in the Milky Way alone there can be up to 300 million potentially habitable planets.
 
Gotta' throw out another bit of logic... I've always had to laugh at the people who think we're going to encounter intelligent life and have anything to teach them... or, for some reason, WE(?) will be the superior beings? Let me put it this way... on a timeline representing several billion years... scaled to the length of a football field... ALL of human experience would fit in a hair's width (not length)... at the very very end (there's nothing more recent than today).

Look at electricity... flight... the transistor... the odds are that we're the new kids in the universe... most likely by, at the very least, hundreds of thousands of years... if not millions.

And the funny thing is we'll fight over what computer platform somebody chooses... and kill each other over things not much more significant than that. So... yeah... let's mix it up by introducing ourselves to something with a few million years more advancements... and hope that they'll somehow see us as equals... instead of using the exact same socioeconomic and/or food-chain logic that we use to determine how other living things that live here are treated.

Go SETI! I'm sure that IF there were any success in it... that it would work out great for us.

You make a good point that technological development is exponential. Once the first few billion years of planet development passes and there are enough stable planets then it only takes a few dozen million years of evolution to develop intelligent life. Once that life reaches a certain point, technology takes off at an ever accelerating rate. The assumption we all make is that we or they are able to remain as a stable society for some period of time such that we are this brilliant life form and that somehow, one of these life forms finds a way to defy physics and travel at the speed of light to get to the next planet that has life.

Meanwhile, I'd have to assume that most planetary systems are similar to ours and subjected to random acts of violence every few million years, which extinguishes life and it starts over. It seems every 100 million years or so, we have a bit of a collision on earth and things reset. So is it the same everywhere else? Maybe were due for another asteroid.

It's all nonsense anyway. The reality is that we can't even get along on this planet. We can't even control ourselves to keep the population down to a sustainable level, yet some fools actually think a dead planet like Mars is worthy of populating.

When I go outside at night and I see the stars, I think of those pictures of the earth the astronauts took from the moon and see that razor thin atmosphere protecting us from the void of space... then I really begin to wonder what it's all about. Of course, the answer is ... 42.
 
I'd have to assume that most planetary systems are similar to ours and subjected to random acts of violence every few million years, which extinguishes life and it starts over. It seems every 100 million years or so, we have a bit of a collision on earth and things reset. So is it the same everywhere else?

Hmmm. Very interesting thought. First time I ever considered that maybe there AREN'T smarter organisms out there.
 
NASA estimates that there are at least 100 billion stars in the Milky Way, of which about four billion are similar to the Sun. If only 7% of these stars have habitable planets (a very conservative estimate), then in the Milky Way alone there can be up to 300 million potentially habitable planets.

That's the "old" thought.

The "new" thinking is that, yes, we ARE likely alone:

If the universe is so big, it likely produced intelligent life on other planets. Some of those lives must have built spaceships. Even at relatively slow speeds, given enough time, they’d disperse across the galaxy, just as humans had across the globe. And if that’s the case, as physicist Enrico Fermi famously wondered, where is everybody? Why haven’t we met any extraterrestrials?

“It just hit me with the force of a sledgehammer that all these things that science fiction, and science as well, had told me to expect — that one day soon we would make contact with aliens, and that maybe we’d go out and have all these Star Trek adventures with them — maybe that was all wrong,” says Webb.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/the-lonely-universe-is-life-on-earth-just-a-lucky-fluke

http://https://www.unilad.co.uk/technology/if-life-on-earth-is-typical-we-may-be-alone-in-the-universe/
 
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