kevin baggott
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Well 13 staples is enuf for me. I will work on my novel until the osmo pocket 2 comes out. Thanks John for sharing. I mean that sincerely. 
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Run&Gun
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The Eurovision shot is still one of the most insane Steadicam(or otherwise) shots I've seen. I don't know how many times I've watched the rehearsal/BTS and live shot. To pull something like that of with that precision and at that speed on LIVE TV is crazy. The margin for error was less than zero. In my opinion, even though it only lasted a fraction of the time, this shot was much harder and more (technically) impressive than even the "The Oner" in True Detective.
The Usaine Bolt Segway accident was incredibly scary. The op could have ended the career of one of the world's most elite athletes.
And I saw on the news a few days ago that the Chinese company that is the current owner and manufacturer, has decided to cease production.
John Brawley
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Well 13 staples is enuf for me. I will work on my novel until the osmo pocket 2 comes out. Thanks John for sharing. I mean that sincerely.
Ill post the photos one day.....it was like a horror film....head wounds bleed a lot !!
JB
NorBro
Major Contributor
There is something called 'blading' in professional wrestling.
It's illegal (on paper) in most major promotions these days (like WWE), but wrestlers would tape a small piece of a broken razor blade in the tape that is around their wrists, and then later use it during matches to gently open up the top of their own forehead.
One extremely minor nick in that sensitive skin/area and it's half a bucket of blood, steady stream.
Of course it was mostly for the showmanship and they weren't really hurt (even though they were losing blood).
It's illegal (on paper) in most major promotions these days (like WWE), but wrestlers would tape a small piece of a broken razor blade in the tape that is around their wrists, and then later use it during matches to gently open up the top of their own forehead.
One extremely minor nick in that sensitive skin/area and it's half a bucket of blood, steady stream.
Of course it was mostly for the showmanship and they weren't really hurt (even though they were losing blood).
kevin baggott
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kevin baggott
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Found this little test I did with osmo pocket - if they would just shove the mavic pro 2 sensor in v2 - id' be a happy man.
https://vimeo.com/336225493
https://vimeo.com/336225493
ahalpert
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That osmo shot looks impressive.
Thought about shooting with a little IBIS camera like a ZV1 or even an iPhone?
You can do a lot with post stabilization too. Pretty sure there was lots of post work on Enter the Void. https://youtu.be/PGtumTVHRcQ
Thought about shooting with a little IBIS camera like a ZV1 or even an iPhone?
You can do a lot with post stabilization too. Pretty sure there was lots of post work on Enter the Void. https://youtu.be/PGtumTVHRcQ
NorBro
Major Contributor
And if you're open to the robotic feel and mastering in HD, then even this device could be a consideration (if they still sell them or used) for your high-quality cameras.
Original footage sample starts around 22 seconds.
https://vimeo.com/178324294
You could re-frame and smooth out your walk in post...but could probably just do that with any future 4K cameras you use too with advanced post offerings.
Original footage sample starts around 22 seconds.
https://vimeo.com/178324294
You could re-frame and smooth out your walk in post...but could probably just do that with any future 4K cameras you use too with advanced post offerings.
Run&Gun
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Don't get me wrong, the TD oner was great, especially if you've ever strapped one on and know how hard it really is, but... I'd compare the TD shot to throwing a perfect game in baseball and the Eurovision shot was(Lord, I can't believe I'm citing this...) Tom Brady leading the Patriots to the SB win from that 25 point hole. Both great feats, but which one was more exciting and you said to yourself, "WTF am I witnessing?!".
ahalpert
Major Contributor
I suppose to continue your metaphor I would say - what if you're a baseball fan but not a football fan? I don't even recognize that singer or follow Eurovision. But I loved TD Season 1 and was very invested in the story when I saw it. Just remembering that oner raises the hair on the back of my neck and makes me feel coked up and one false move away from death
Run&Gun
Veteran
Even if you're not a 'specific sport' fan, and just a semi general fan or find specific sports boring, you can still recognize accomplishments and exciting moments and appreciate them.
I've never seen one second of that Eurovision singing show except that shot. But it was a bad a s s, high energy, high precision shot. And I loved True Detective season 1 (and season 3) and Chris McGuire is a boss op. Maybe I appreciate it more, partly because of the amount of live network television I do and have done and been involved in over my career. Yes, they rehearsed that shot, but what you saw was done LIVE. It wasn't the best of multiple takes and there was no safety net, just in-case. To continue the sports metaphors, they had four full downs on the TD shot, the EV shot was 4th down, last play of the game and you're either gonna win it or lose it right there.
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CharlesPapert
Director of Photography
Funny thing, that True Detective shot. Not to detract from the shot itself but the attention it got...it kind of felt like old wine in a new bottle. Late 90's, early 2000's, big Steadicam oner's were all over TV, until they weren't any more. Then that shot came along and it was like no-one had seen anything like it before. It may just be my personal taste but I think I'm just drawn to oner's that have more nuance than brawn.
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Guest
Guest
I missed this, which episode?
Oh wait, I think I found it. yes, I binged the whole first season, and the whole thing felt like a big oner beaver dream. But now that I saw it again, it is fantastic as a real time story telling device in this instance.
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Liam Hall
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Consider yourself very lucky.
kevin baggott
Well-known member
I would love to see a company like blackmagic come out with a handheld gimbal ( like the osmo pocket) with a mule kick of a sensor. Wow.
JB if ya know of anything like that coming out next month it's safe to say here. kidding aside - whoever does release such a product - they're gonna sell like potato peelers when they first hit.
JB if ya know of anything like that coming out next month it's safe to say here. kidding aside - whoever does release such a product - they're gonna sell like potato peelers when they first hit.
CharlesPapert
Director of Photography
The Steadicam community surely thanks for you that sentiment!
In the first year or two after the gimbals emerged there was a bit of a dark cloud in the Steadicam community that their livelihood was under siege. Why hire an expensive skilled operator when you can dry-hire an inexpensive gimbal? It quickly became clear that the latter model wasn't a good one, gimbals needed a tech who knew how to tune them and most importantly troubleshoot them. I avoided them myself until I started working with an operator who knew his gear backwards and forwards (like a good Steadicam operator does)!
Now that tech has found its way into the Steadicam infrastructure via the Wave and the Volt, and especially in the case of the latter, it is allowing operators to push the limits of Steadicam even further and achieve more consistent and precise results. There's life in the old girl yet!
Last night I thought a little about Carlito's Way, with Steadicam by the great Larry McConkey. For those who haven't seen, this clip sets the scene with some phenomenal visual storytelling in the subway car, then watch the part 2 clip for one of the greatest one'rs of all time, around the concourse at Grand Central. It's a masterclass in composing a widescreen moving frame.