Von Real with the HMC150, DP Slider and Randy Stubbs

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Mark Von Lanken

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This month's Von Real features not only the DP Slider but also an intro by none other than the infamous Randy Stubbs. For those who are not familar with Randy, he won more WEVA CEAs back in the 90's and early 2000's than anyone thought possible. He actually quit entering the competition and it took several years for others to get even close to his CEA count. Just ask David Robin.
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Not only has Randy inspired hundreds through his creative techniques, but he is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet...oh and he is a hilarious guy. Just watch the bloopers.

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very nice mark!
i'm particularly impressed with how the DP Slider handles when the camera is tilted.
my diy igus bogs down with too much friction when i try to slide while the camera is tilted.

and while i like the variety of angles you can achieve mounting the slider on the tripod head and a ball/swivel head on the slider, it would be too limiting for me. what i mean is that if you want to just shoot some pans or tilts while mounted on the slider, you'd have to pan/tilt the entire thing. in tight indoor spaces this could be a problem. i have my slider mounted directly to my legs, and the tripod head onto the slider, which allows me to shoot normally if i want. the downside is i can't really do any of the cool angles.

there's a definite tradeoff there. i feel like your configuration is a more dedicated 'slider shots' setup and you'd need another tripod handy for regular shots.

great work as always, thanks for sharing!
 
Thanks for watching and especially your input. When I have the HMC150 on the slider it is for dedicated slider shots. I really like the creative freedom that the ball head gives me, but you can certainly mount the slider directly to the tripod and then mount the tripod head to the slider as you described.
 
Mark Von Lanken said:
Thanks for watching and especially your input. When I have the HMC150 on the slider it is for dedicated slider shots. I really like the creative freedom that the ball head gives me, but you can certainly mount the slider directly to the tripod and then mount the tripod head to the slider as you described.
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Hi Mark,

In your video you didn't mention the V-960. I have no experience with a slider and would like some input on the length. The V-480 is too short, and the V-1200 is too long for general purpose use. So, the problem is deciding between the V-720 and the V-960. I can only afford one. I am worried that if I get the V-720 I would wish it was longer, and I am worried that if I get the V-960 it would have stability problems. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
I only have experience with the V720 and V1200. The first slider I got was the V720. At about 30 inches I was able to pack it in a large suitcase. Since the V960 is almost 40 inches long it is just too long to fit in a suitcase.

For wedding work I use the V720 95% of the time and only occasionally use the V1200 at weddings, but the V1200 is great for non wedding work when you need a really long travel distance.

If you never had to pack your slider in a suitcase and could only get one, I would strongly consider the V960. You mentioned stability being a concern and rightly so. You will need the legs of your tripod to be extended somewhat to take full advantage of the V960, but here is something to think about. Just because you can slide nearly 40 inches doesn't mean you have to. You just have the ability to if the need arises. Does that make sense?

Let me know if you have any additional questions.
 
good point about travelling.
i've got a 1m zaza slider and i never take it off my tripod.
i find that it is long enough for all my broll with some length to spare.
but i don't know how i'd feel if i only had 720cm to work with....that might be cutting it too close even though most of my broll is cut short. its just nice to have some room to spare at the end of your slides so you're not bumping up against the ends all the time.

as for stabilizing a longer slider, i've got a tripod with a mid-level spreader set pretty high that allows me to open the legs very wide. also, i've learned to hold the camera with one hand on the focus wheel and the other on the pan handle, lifting slightly to reduce friction, allowing me to pan and tilt while sliding, pull focus, and preventing the whole thing from tipping over.

i don't know about you mark, but i find it difficult at best to move around a slider mounted on a tripod with a monopod also attached at the other end. maybe on a movie set with all the time in the world, but not in the real world action of weddings and documentaries.
 
Mark Von Lanken said:
I only have experience with the V720 and V1200. The first slider I got was the V720. At about 30 inches I was able to pack it in a large suitcase. Since the V960 is almost 40 inches long it is just too long to fit in a suitcase.

For wedding work I use the V720 95% of the time and only occasionally use the V1200 at weddings, but the V1200 is great for non wedding work when you need a really long travel distance.

If you never had to pack your slider in a suitcase and could only get one, I would strongly consider the V960. You mentioned stability being a concern and rightly so. You will need the legs of your tripod to be extended somewhat to take full advantage of the V960, but here is something to think about. Just because you can slide nearly 40 inches doesn't mean you have to. You just have the ability to if the need arises. Does that make sense?

Let me know if you have any additional questions.
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Thank you very much Mark, that is the information I needed.
 
averan said:
...i don't know about you mark, but i find it difficult at best to move around a slider mounted on a tripod with a monopod also attached at the other end. maybe on a movie set with all the time in the world, but not in the real world action of weddings and documentaries.
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Do you have one end of the slider mounted to a tripod and the other end mounted to a monopod?
 
Mark Von Lanken said:
Do you have one end of the slider mounted to a tripod and the other end mounted to a monopod?
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that was the configuration that i tried and that proved immensely awkward to move around by myself.

i'm happier now mounted on single tripod that is able to spread very wide. i feel a bit like Jesus walking around with a cross over my shoulders, but with this setup i can very quickly reposition for different shots with no problem.
 
how well does this work with a 35mm setup? I have the hmc with sgblade, micro mattebox, and a 7inch screen. would it be too much weight for a setup like this?

thanks
 
Marduk said:
how well does this work with a 35mm setup? I have the hmc with sgblade, micro mattebox, and a 7inch screen. would it be too much weight for a setup like this?

thanks
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Forget it, its a camera only thing. I have a slider, not the DP but similar and stability would become an issue with all the weight your talking about.
 
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