No, don't worry...class 10 SDs and you ll be fine...
Upgrade from my Canon 7D
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I just posted this in another thread. On teh best value versus performance right no win SD cards:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea...-5Diii&p=1986443064&viewfull=1#post1986443064
Basically, the Lexar 600x are $17.95 for 32 GB. The PNY Elite are $20. for 32 GB. That is the best cost/performance ratio right now. Near the top, but not as expensive as the top performers.
You will not have any problem with SD cards & HD video using teh normal camera codecs. The SD controller is a bottleneck for 14 bit RAW with Magic Lantern - at 100 MS/s rates. But at the normal 40 MB/s rates that the controller can accomplish, no issues!
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Also, I agree on the response about the 70D sensor comments above - at least, that is what I have heard from photogs who have upgraded from the 7D. They are very happy with that sensor, compared to previous Canon crop sensors. Not compared to the Sony Exmor of course.
And ... we are ALL waiting for Photokina ...
We know that Canon can create great video cameras - see the C100/C300/C500. The "problem" seems to be that they went in that direction, where the margins are much, much higher. Instead of giving us the same sort of technology on our DSLRs...
Hopefully it is time for trickle down now. CLog anyone?
Cheers!
Michael
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthrea...-5Diii&p=1986443064&viewfull=1#post1986443064
Basically, the Lexar 600x are $17.95 for 32 GB. The PNY Elite are $20. for 32 GB. That is the best cost/performance ratio right now. Near the top, but not as expensive as the top performers.
You will not have any problem with SD cards & HD video using teh normal camera codecs. The SD controller is a bottleneck for 14 bit RAW with Magic Lantern - at 100 MS/s rates. But at the normal 40 MB/s rates that the controller can accomplish, no issues!
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Also, I agree on the response about the 70D sensor comments above - at least, that is what I have heard from photogs who have upgraded from the 7D. They are very happy with that sensor, compared to previous Canon crop sensors. Not compared to the Sony Exmor of course.
And ... we are ALL waiting for Photokina ...
We know that Canon can create great video cameras - see the C100/C300/C500. The "problem" seems to be that they went in that direction, where the margins are much, much higher. Instead of giving us the same sort of technology on our DSLRs...
Hopefully it is time for trickle down now. CLog anyone?
Cheers!
Michael
tinpanalley
Active member
I had someone interested in my 7D and then they turned around and said they changed their mind because they wanted the 70D instead.
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rogar-BigGrin(DBG)I had someone interested in my 7D and then they turned around and said they changed their mind because they wanted the 70D instead.
ooops! Just tell them 70D is a bad camera...and keep them away from DVXuser...:evil:
tinpanalley
Active member
Ha!
Ebay sale just ended as well. No takers. I think I may have decided too late to sell this camera.
Hang in there! Value will still be higher now, rather than after a 7DII is announced.
There is a bit of a "clearance" by Canon on refurbished 7D's and similar. Just get the best value you can, and don't panic and "dump" it.
It is worth what it is worth....
Still, our real "Net Cost of Ownership" today is fantastic!
I used to carry $800+ of medium format film when i travelled to Las Vegas for 1 week, for example. Then add in another $800 for developing ... I would spend more than you spent on your camera in 1 week on film!
I spent $5,000+ a year on film in 1998, 1999, 2000 .. up to 2004, when I got a 1DsII. 6x7 images used to cost me $1 a frame .. plus bracketing. Even 35 mm film with developing was $.33 per frame. So 1,000 pictures would be $330. Probably what the 7D cost per year?
Digital is cheap, cheap, cheap compared to film! Especially movie film.
Good luck.
Michael
There is a bit of a "clearance" by Canon on refurbished 7D's and similar. Just get the best value you can, and don't panic and "dump" it.
It is worth what it is worth....
Still, our real "Net Cost of Ownership" today is fantastic!
I used to carry $800+ of medium format film when i travelled to Las Vegas for 1 week, for example. Then add in another $800 for developing ... I would spend more than you spent on your camera in 1 week on film!
I spent $5,000+ a year on film in 1998, 1999, 2000 .. up to 2004, when I got a 1DsII. 6x7 images used to cost me $1 a frame .. plus bracketing. Even 35 mm film with developing was $.33 per frame. So 1,000 pictures would be $330. Probably what the 7D cost per year?
Digital is cheap, cheap, cheap compared to film!
Especially movie film.Good luck.
Michael
tinpanalley
Active member
So... for anyone who still checks this... I just sold my 7D and I think I'm decided on the 70D. Just reading over all the other recommendations. The GH2 is interesting but I don't want a micro four thirds camera and having the Canon lens already makes Canon the obvious choice. In case anyone has any other suggestions, I need the DSLR best suited for video (prefereably Canon) and under 1000. From where I'm sitting, the 70D looks like the obvious choice.
Bruce Foreman
Veteran
You probably should ask yourself WHY you don't want a micro four thirds camera. Is there a sound technical reason why that won't do what you feel you need? One common response has been that the sensor is a bit smaller. But the size difference is really not that significant. I went from 7D, 60D, and T3i to GH2's
Why?
Bruce Dale's "Summer Morning" shot with a "bone stock" pre production GH2 and the 14-140mm lens showed absolutely STUNNING image detail which more than made up for any detail that might be lost with a slightly smaller sensor. Look for it on vimeo.
Shallow DOF and selective focus issues? I've been able to do anything I want along those lines with the GH2s and now GH3 and GH4. Look at a lot of sample videos on vimeo from these cameras.
Now the 70D just may be what you feel is best for you. If there is just one Canon lens involved, though, you're not in too deep yet. But I sold off 2 "L" series lenses and some good workable EF primes and in going with m4/3 glass I haven't given up a thing in IQ...Just the weight I was lugging around. But along with the increase in detail with the changeover I made, one factor was that Canon has not made any real significant improvements in sensor IQ since the 7D and T2i.
Used GH3 bodies seem to be going for around $800 or a bit less (one of mine with 128 shutter "clicks" went for $750), couple that with a used Lumix 14-45mm "kit" lens (the one with metal body running from $175-$250) and you have a very workable starter kit.
I liked the Canons I had. But for video, the move to Panasonic Lumix GH series was such a noticeable "upgrade" it wasn't funny. And for video quality, what we're seeing out of the GH4 is worlds better. Waving grass, rustling leaves in trees, and moving water are the real codec stressors. I saw a video shot with the GH4 yesterday in a park with lots of all that moving around and water flowing that just looked "pure wet".
Yes, the GH4 costs more than what you've set your budget for. But I'm working on some footage of hummingbirds I shot 6 days ago that even downconverted to 1080p looks super.
Just some thoughts...Maybe worth exactly what you just paid for them...
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Or if you can afford to wait, you could see what Canon announces at Photokina.
I have 2 Canon EOS M that I paid $500 for that I am using for the summer. One with the 22mm and one with the 18-55 mm. Without the second body my total investment would be $350.
I still have my T4i, which I will probably sell. Keeping my Canon 24-70, 70-200, 18-135 STM, 17-40, two 600EX, two 550 EX, & etc. for now.
From Canon Rumors:
We’re told to definitely expect new sensor technology to be introduced in the Canon EOS 7D Mark II. This tech will be used in all forthcoming Canon DSLRs....
This may be one of Canon’s best kept secrets as it’s apparently going to be more than an “evolutionary” technology""
http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/06/new-sensor-tech-in-eos-7d-mark-ii-cr2/
I was thinking of going to Nikon, but it is a lot of work and learning to swap.
There should be other bodies with the new sensor in addition to the 7DII within a month or two. A T6i , maybe an EOS M3, then a 80D.
Good luck!
M.
I have 2 Canon EOS M that I paid $500 for that I am using for the summer. One with the 22mm and one with the 18-55 mm. Without the second body my total investment would be $350.
I still have my T4i, which I will probably sell. Keeping my Canon 24-70, 70-200, 18-135 STM, 17-40, two 600EX, two 550 EX, & etc. for now.
From Canon Rumors:
We’re told to definitely expect new sensor technology to be introduced in the Canon EOS 7D Mark II. This tech will be used in all forthcoming Canon DSLRs....
This may be one of Canon’s best kept secrets as it’s apparently going to be more than an “evolutionary” technology""
http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/06/new-sensor-tech-in-eos-7d-mark-ii-cr2/
I was thinking of going to Nikon, but it is a lot of work and learning to swap.
There should be other bodies with the new sensor in addition to the 7DII within a month or two. A T6i , maybe an EOS M3, then a 80D.
Good luck!
M.
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There is a Sony 5N with kit lens on Amazon US as an open box for $265.
The Sony a3000 is on sale new for $275 with kit lens here (sonyalpharumors.com has some European sale prices too)
You could see what kind of "bottom feeding" options there are for the short term available at $300 or less.
Or go with an EOS M with the fantastic 22 mm and very good 18-55 mm for around $325-$350. That is the same sensor as the T4i. Very nice, small stills package, plus uses Canon lenses via adapter
I love mine.
I will still keep one "main" kit with the high end glass. Then have fun with second tier kits under $500 as more great 1-2 generation old cameras are available used for cheap.
Cheers!
Michael
The Sony a3000 is on sale new for $275 with kit lens here (sonyalpharumors.com has some European sale prices too)
You could see what kind of "bottom feeding" options there are for the short term available at $300 or less.
Or go with an EOS M with the fantastic 22 mm and very good 18-55 mm for around $325-$350. That is the same sensor as the T4i. Very nice, small stills package, plus uses Canon lenses via adapter
I love mine.
I will still keep one "main" kit with the high end glass. Then have fun with second tier kits under $500 as more great 1-2 generation old cameras are available used for cheap.
Cheers!
Michael
I hope this is true. The competition from the other brands is really huge, so it may be time for Canon to give us something special!
I love my 70D especially for its amazing AF and I ll be glad to stick with Canon if the 7DII has that AF, with articulating touch screen of course, better DR, better resolution, better low light performance, less moire and a freaking headphone output...4K would be welcomed but not a priority for me! If it will be a let down...I see myself shooting with another brand next season! Sony A7s looks great! Heck...even the Lumix FZ1000 at around 900$ seems wonderful!!!
Andrius Simutis
Veteran
Keep in mind that this camera will be first and foremost a stills camera. The 7D is meant to be a sports camera too, so it will have a high fps for stills which means it needs fast data transfer capability. This could be a good thing for us video shooters as the 7D2 could have the hardware there to process 4k or the data rate to record raw HD. Will it actually do that? Who knows.
One disappointment you should prepare yourself for is the articulating touch screen. The 7D is almost a pro body, and the new version is rumored to be even closer to pro builds, so it will be weather sealed and thus no articulating screen. Pros don't like touch screens either, so count on good buttons and no touch screen.
Perhaps you re right, although we have seen that an articulating touch screen IS possible on a weather sealed body...GH4 has it if Im not mistaken...
I love my Canon 24-70 & 70-200. Best zooms around!
I also love the 600EX radio triggered flash. I really want to get into Dual Pixel Auto Focus.
But we need DR! If Canon can deliver that in the 7DII I am sure we will see other bodies with that too, very soon.
A T6i, for example, will have an articulating screen.
Also, it is users shooting with the 7DII at the World Cup who are saying revolutionary, not Canon.
Otherwise I will go to Nikon. I am a former pro stills shooter. I need a full line of top quality lenses, flash, and autofocus on a full frame.
We will see soon! Hopefully Canon will do a quick refresh on a number of models.
Cheers.
M.
I also love the 600EX radio triggered flash. I really want to get into Dual Pixel Auto Focus.
But we need DR! If Canon can deliver that in the 7DII I am sure we will see other bodies with that too, very soon.
A T6i, for example, will have an articulating screen.
Also, it is users shooting with the 7DII at the World Cup who are saying revolutionary, not Canon.
Otherwise I will go to Nikon. I am a former pro stills shooter. I need a full line of top quality lenses, flash, and autofocus on a full frame.
We will see soon! Hopefully Canon will do a quick refresh on a number of models.
Cheers.
M.
Bruce Foreman
Veteran
Depends on the Pro and what the gear is being used for. In video mode with touch screen on and touch focus enabled one can do a very nice rack focus from one subject to another. Touch the new subject and the camera changes focus to that point very neatly. I'm a Pro (retired) and I adapt to new tech.
It does, and so does the GH3. I have one "weather sealed" lens and with it I've had both GH3 and GH4 out in the rain. We're in drought here and don't get much rain but when we do we almost get out in it and "play".
I love the comments I get..."HEY! Your camera is getting wet"!
me: "Yup. I know...It brought along a towel in the truck"