Upcoming hands-on comparison of F3, FS100 and AF100 from Philip Bloom

philip bloom said:
thanks! been a struggle to get it done in time. New version with a few fixes is being converted as is part 2. I will upload them tomorrow as going to bed now. Am lucky enough to score a set visit to Ridley Scott's Prometheus tomorrow so will leave it uploading then!

Enjoy and remember...nothing is definitive!
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I hear Aliens have been spotted on the set even though the idea of it being an Alien prequel was dropped. Sneaky Scott!
 
As usual Philip has done an exceptional job.

Also, congrats to all on a damn fine thread. Its been level headed with people talking about what matters to them without any mudslinging.

Someone wrote a few posts back they found it difficult to see a huge difference when the cameras were in the hands of a talented operator. Quite frankly thats the ball game right there. And its why we try to encourage people to get out and shoot rather than debate. The more you shoot the better you get. We already have people like Philip who can provide great information.
 
I have to agree, the differences weren't massively huge on every level. I will however say I could really see the resolution of the F3 popping through and it was very pleasing.

For most of the day shots, the AF100/FS100 were pretty simular to me.

For the night shots, I really liked the F3/FS100 shots.

Looks like I better order some ND before my FS100 gets here!! :)
 
Great job Philip. I always love your comparisons and your style in general. I much prefer seeing real world results like this as opposed to charts and whatnot.

I would buy the fs100 in a second if it didn't like a couple things I find crucial :(
 
These are three great cameras and there are only small things that separates them.

If the F3 had 1080p 50/60fps slowmotion it would be the perfect of them all. If the FS100 had built in ND and HD SDI out it would have been the best overall and if the AF100 had Sonys sensor and 10-bit output it would be on top.
 
Nice work Philip, I really enjoyed the comparison. I absolutely love the colors that the F3 produces. It's really evident in the slow motion section with the kid and the T2i. I think we are going to have to pick one up this summer. I'm still going to wait until the FS100 comes out so that I can rent it and try it out on my own, but in everything that I have seen the F3 is truly a step up (as it should be for the price).
 
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These are three great cameras and there are only small things that separates them.

If the F3 had 1080p 50/60fps slowmotion it would be the perfect of them all. If the FS100 had built in ND and HD SDI out it would have been the best overall and if the AF100 had Sonys sensor and 10-bit output it would be on top.
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the F3 did 1080p 60fps through S-Log just not onto SxS cards.
 
Thanks for this effort Philip. You do a lot for this community.

I really see the F3 dealing with highlights in a much more graceful manner. All of the cameras are a great value for your dollar and produce very nice images but the F3 just grabs my attention in this bunch. Throw in the S-Log footage I have seen posted here on this site and the F3 looks like a force to be reckoned with.
 
philip bloom said:
thanks! been a struggle to get it done in time. New version with a few fixes is being converted as is part 2. I will upload them tomorrow as going to bed now. Am lucky enough to score a set visit to Ridley Scott's Prometheus tomorrow so will leave it uploading then!

Enjoy and remember...nothing is definitive!
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Thank you Phillip.

Wonderwul work, so valuable, and so appreciated. I read and watch a lot of reviews. Your ability and value to the HDV/Film community cannot be stated enough. But it's your manner, honesty, practicality and warmth thats sets you apart!
So again, thank you. BUT ... Please. please make Suresh SPEAK at some point! lol.

For me,
As others have said. It's FS for me image wise (from the little we've seen). The low light was also very impressive - which has relevance for my next project. Mercifully though, I'm no longer really too bothered by my final selection... clear pros and cons all ways, making even the 5D still a genuine player imo... But the most important thing is that they can all clearly produce great images, so it's just about what best suits my artistic/logistical requirements as opposed to worrying so much whether one camera is "Worth it" or "Good" All pretty bloody great really...

But in talking ideals, we still just need those last few critical features combined with sensible ergonomics and the low end democratisation of the film world will be truly complete.
We're so close... Certainly way closer than ever before... which is exciting :grin:

Best
LW
 
The F3 clearly has more dynamic range than the FS/AF.
The FS seems to have a tad more latitude than the AF, but not certain. FS is certainly more sensitive.
I hope Phil's 2nd or 3rd part has some comparison in this regards. Thanks!
 
Because I have a lot of Canon Glass, a FS100 + Birger mount seems the way for me. But not totally sold yet.
 
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This is what every side-by-side review should be. Go out and shoot with the cameras, and then come back and discuss the relative merits in a studio setting (or your kitchen ;-)).

A real public service, Philip. Thank you.

Bill
 
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