C100: unhappy with 5d mkiii.. is c100 for me

I try to power down before changing, although I know I have done it without powering down.
I think I read something along the lines of static and getting dust and crap in the sensor (almost like it would get sucked in). Likely more to it than that. Never had any issues with it though.
 
The only problem I have ever had was when it was raining, but I wasn't changing lenses. The lens wasn't weather proof. The camera stopped communicating with the lens and I got an error message on the LCD display. I assume something shorted out in the camera. It wasn't lens dependent. After about an hour of letting the camera dry out, everything was fine. After that event, I just completely stopped worrying about hot swaps as I figure Canon must have built in at least a few failsafes.
 
This is a "must view" that I saw on hdwarrior.

I predict you won't have any more questions about whether you should/should not get a Canon C100

http://www.hdwarrior.co.uk/2014/02/...new-payable-focus-upgrade-for-the-canon-c100/

No way could do any of this with my AG-AC160A - sure would be nice to be able order an AF upgrade for the 160.

As for the movi, it is causing me to completely re-think camera sizes.

The only thing that saves me is I don't do weddings or sports. For stage events I can mostly set three focus points and stick to these.
 
tikigod19 said:
I've just heard this on a c100 youtube review "some c300's experience failure when swapping lens so you should power down the camera before swapping glass"

Is this the case?
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u dont have to power down anything , with latest update u only has to push a button lens change .... thats all!
 
anatusa said:
u dont have to power down anything , with latest update u only has to push a button lens change .... thats all!
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MASSIVE news for me! Have you got a link to the update? Is it out now or forthcoming? Is there a delay once you push button and get a "yes you can now change" message..?
 
kwkeirstead said:
Check out
http://www.hdwarrior.co.uk/2014/02/...new-payable-focus-upgrade-for-the-canon-c100/

I don't expect you will have any more questions re whether you should/should not go for a C100

I am totally vendor neutral on the C100 - I don't own a C100.

I wish the manufacture of my camera would offer a payable upgrade on AF. They did, actually, and I paid for it but it performance did not significantly improve.
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thanks for that. That's the video that first got my interest in the C100, until then I hadn't really looked into it. I just find it hard to believe that the continuous AF when moving on the glidecam (the only time I'd really use it) would work at aperture larger than f5.6 or so but we'll see..
 
tikigod19 said:
thats one thing I'm keen to try out on Tuesday, if so then all is not lost. The 4 second start up time doesn't sound like it'd be an issue but at the speed I need to change lenses sometimes it might be, I think it'll just mean changing the way I shoot.
The c100 certainly has a sharper but more 'traditional' looking image compared to the narrow DOF of the FF sensor. Can I learn to love this 'normal' look no matter how sharp it is. I'm not sure
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Would love to see some of your work with the 5D3. I'm curious after reading this thread.
 
Exact said:
...and did you get to play with the new AF or was the no lens exchange a killer before you even tried it?
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yeah I tried it, was pretty impressive but I don't think people will use it much. Most pro's are going to want manual control most of the time but it could be handy on a steadicam. That said, I'd probably get a tokina 11-16 for steadicam work and I think I'm right in saying the AF only works with canon lenses. Dave maybe you can confirm that if you go tomorrow I forgot to ask but pretty sure its right.

There is a young chinese looking (english sounding) guy there, I think his name was Gary Jin or something similar, think it was a GJ, he was MUCH more knowledgable about the c100 than all of the others I spoke to (the others didnt have a clue!) so look out for him
 
tikigod19 said:
That said, I'd probably get a tokina 11-16 for steadicam work and I think I'm right in saying the AF only works with canon lenses.
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Not true and the AF won't work well with the Tokina 11-16. It's designed to work with STM lenses but it will work (with variable results) with any EF lens with auto-focus capabilities. I have the 70D and it's the same technology. The 11-16 AF is outdated, slow and noisy. The Sigma 18-35 works well, the 24-105L less so but still usable.
 
Seriously, on the lens exchange issue, if it is that big of a deal to you just don't turn the camera off. If you feel like you need to be safe, turn it off. I don't turn my camera off. Never have, never will. Maybe someday my camera will malfunction. I checked the manual, and it does say turn the camera off. It also says not to subject the sensor to sunlight or bright light sources. I'm guessing the reason that you are supposed to turn the camera off is that there is a chance that you could short the power to the autofocus motor to one of the other connectors and fry the circuit. Of course, that would also apply to any DSLR. I doubt it is a dust or sensor issue since the sensor is protected by the glass that houses the ND filters. Obviously, my camera may die tomorrow due to a lens change, but I'm not worried. I have yet to see somebody post about hot swaps actually causing a problem.
 
The canon guys said it was indeed down to dust being sacked in and the sensor being much harder to clean than dslr. The less knowledgeable guy said off the record as long as you use canon glass it'll be fine. Totally contradictory information then ...

I was going to ask somebody about the Tokina with the 70d to see if it worked. That's a shame to hear. 18nm isn't wide enough, what are the other c100 wide options?
 
I think after 8 pages of this you should stick with your 5Kmk's. The smallest things that are not of any issues to C100 shooters are bothering you. ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Why don't you rent the camera for the weekend and run around and shoot with it instead of looking at it in camera shops????
You say you shoot weddings.

I think most people have shot a wedding in their lifetimes. I've shot a few for friends and family. Wedding shooting is like shooting a war but making it beautiful. Being that you have to work fast and fluid and be in the right spots always on the ready.

Lets look at the things that the C100 has over the 5D.

EVERYTHING IS BUILT INTO THE CAMERA!
ND
XLR
REMOVABLE HANDLE AND GRIP
GREAT PREAMP
WAVEFORM
ONE TOUCH AF AND FULL AF COMING
DUAL RECORD
ONE TOUCH IRIS
EVF
AWESOME BATTERY LIFE
FLUID CONTROLS ON THE GRIP
ERGONOMICS
CUSTOM BUTTONS GALORE
TILTING LCD
UNCOMPRESSED OUT
ASPECT MARKERS
PRE RECORD
4K SENSOR INTERNALLY DOWNSAMPLING TO AWESOME 1080 THAT IS TUNED FOR MOVING IMAGES
C-LOG
WDR
EXTENSIVE IMAGE CONTROLS THAT YOU COULD DIAL IN THE IMAGE THAT ROCKS YOUR BOAT.
FOCUS PEAKING
ZEBRAS
FAST WORKFLOW
AUTO WB AND PRESET A & B WB WITH ONE TOUCH WB (SEEMS HANDY IN SHOOTING WEDDINGS).

All this without hacking the camera. A camera that becomes invisible and just lets you concentrate on shooting. Ask any of the C100 users here and they will agree that the C100/300 is a camera that disappears in your hands and lets you just work. You don't need a crappy variable ND filter that you switch from lens to lens. No dual recording audio. No pocket full of batteries. You don't even need a rig with the C100.

8 pages and you're worried about swapping lenses? I have the 5dmk3 (2 of them) and the mk2 (TWO OF THEM). I haven't thought about running video on them for 2 years. Other than the FF look, the image is soft and plastic.

If there ever was a near perfect large sensor wedding camera for video the C100 is just about the best thing going. The 60i convert to slowmo is still sharper and nicer looking than the 5d's.

But hey, lets move on to page 9 and 10.

Rent the camera. Try it out for a couple days.

This dude makes the C100 shine shooting weddings.
http://alexanderperel.com/category/weddings/

C100 in slow-mo. Same guy. An artist!
 
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