T2i Unfortunately must return: OVERHEATING

FatBird19 said:
With all due respect, you didn't read my post.

I said marketing material, not the manual. There's a big difference between the advertised, bullet-point features that Canon gives on its site and the camera's limitations that I'd have to scour through the manual to know.




I have to laugh because some of you are reacting to my post like I just shot your dog. It's a camera.

It doesn't work for what I'm looking for. It's my money that I'm spending. As you said, Cieloent, I need to understand + know the camera's specific functions, and now that I realize that those don't work for what I need, I'll be returning it, unless of course you guys can offer me some workaround solutions, which is why I came here in the first place.

I'm glad you love it for your needs, Cieloent, but it doesn't work for mine. This isn't meant as on offense to your camera.
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Hey, if you were not informed to know how to use a piece of tool that is your fault not mine. Your going to pay a cool $2K for even the most basic Video Camera so go right ahead.

In the mean time, I love my T2i and know how to properly use it
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Cieloent said:
Hey, if you were not informed to know how to use a piece of tool that is your fault not mine. Your going to pay a cool $2K for even the most basic Video Camera so go right ahead.

In the mean time, I love my T2i and know how to properly use it
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You're funny. You instigated a rude, sarcastic fight with me on the internet because I don't like the piece of electronics equipment that you love.
I came in here because I'm having problems trying to use this camera in ways that most people won't, and I was looking for feedback/advice/workarounds. Ultimately, it looks like this camera just won't work for what I need, and I'm fine with that. I'll get a different one.


Cieloent, treating people respectfully when they're looking for help is more important than starting a fight over a lump of silicon and glass.
 
FatBird19 said:
You're funny. You instigated a rude, sarcastic fight with me on the internet because I don't like the piece of electronics equipment that you love.
I came in here because I'm having problems trying to use this camera in ways that most people won't, and I was looking for feedback/advice/workarounds. Ultimately, it looks like this camera just won't work for what I need, and I'm fine with that. I'll get a different one.


Cieloent, treating people respectfully when they're looking for help is more important than starting a fight over a lump of silicon and glass.
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Respect is earned, not given. Your thread was/is Flame Bate. All the large font, and telling Canon what they should do with their camera + etc.

I could care less what you do with the camera, but coming into the T2i forum to post a flame war was not needed. There are more respectful ways you could have posted your problems.

I can think of a dozen analogies , but I will spare you this time. The truth is when you buy ANYTHING you must be informed on the limitations. HDSLRs (Canon) overheat. Knowing this you need to plan accordingly.

I would love a Sony Ex1, but at well over $5000+ I could buy a couple of T2is and NEVER worry about overheating. Everything comes at a cost, the T2i cost less than $1K, we as the community forgive the camera for it's problems and work around this.

I as well as many others are passionate about this art, so this "piece of glass" you refer to is what I and many people love here. I'm done with this thread and you specifically as you simply just cannot grasp on why what you did was wrong .
 
Wow a 40 min take for a short film! Are you aware that film cameras can't usually hold more than something like 10 mins for a take depending on how much feet you have in. I like that the 7d causes us to shoot like a film camera. I feel like I'm thinking more about what I am going to record than to just use the mentality of let the camera roll and we'll find what's good in the take.
 
FatBird19 said:
he wanted to use the camera to record him painting or drawing so that he can upload some short clips to his youtube channel as well as photograph his portfolio and other work.
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For everyone jumping on the guy, saying "NOBODY'LL WATCH A 40 MINUTE TAKE," he's not saying he's shooting 40 minute takes for a film. It sounds to me more like he'd be fiilming long, locked-off takes of his brother painting, maybe to speed up and use as a timelapse

To the OP: if I understood correctly and you would be using those long takes as timelapses, have you looked into using EOS Utility or an intervalometer to make a timelapse of the painting or drawing from stills? It's about the only workaround I can think of.
 
if its gonna be time lapse then he can do cuts but anyway IMO this cam is not for straight 40 min recording,just treat it like film cam,do you have enough cash to spend on film to record 40 minut roll ? This is something very new,camera with video and movie size sensor ,you couldnt dream about this 3 years ago and now you have it for 800 bucks but still complain.
I always read manual online before i purchase something.
You even have to use ND filters and polarizers like with film camera if you want to keep 1/50 shutter in bright day.Other shutter speeds dont look so filmic.
 
Richard J. Johnson said:
After having worked with the T2i extensively on a feature film as a B cam I can say that it overheats much faster than the 7D. What we have been doing is putting it in the fridge and on ice packs so it doesn't slow us down.
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Interesting. Aluminum body of the 7D dissipates heat more efficeintly?

FatBird, maybe you brother could switch from paint to Paint(tm) and do screen grabs? ;-)
 
Cranky said:
Interesting. Aluminum body of the 7D dissipates heat more efficeintly?
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Does anybody know what the thermal characteristics of magnesium are?

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos7d/page4.asp

"In keeping with its XD designation, the 7D shares the same extensively-sealed magnesium construction as the 5D Mark II. Canon again claims the same degree of moisture and dust resilience as the EOS-1N pro-level film SLR from the 1990s."
 
Tom Shortridge said:
For everyone jumping on the guy, saying "NOBODY'LL WATCH A 40 MINUTE TAKE," he's not saying he's shooting 40 minute takes for a film. It sounds to me more like he'd be fiilming long, locked-off takes of his brother painting, maybe to speed up and use as a timelapse

To the OP: if I understood correctly and you would be using those long takes as timelapses, have you looked into using EOS Utility or an intervalometer to make a timelapse of the painting or drawing from stills? It's about the only workaround I can think of.
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Tom, thank you for actually reading my post.



My brother wants to use the longer takes for time lapse, but on occasion he wants to set the footage back to regular speed so that people can see what he's actually doing.

He has a youtube channel, and currently he's been doing strictly time lapse work on shoes he's drawn.
Matt Cory Art Youtube channel


I've considered using an intervalometer, which would make this very easy, but my concern is the wear on the mechanical shutter. Each of his videos are a max of 3min each, and if we only wanted the final video to be 12 frames per second, that would still mean popping off a total of 2160 pictures for each video. I feel like that's a lot of wear on the camera just to create this free video marketing material, but what do you think? Are there any other ways to do time lapse on the camera?


This camera is absolutely amazing. It'll work well for short films of mine, short art documentary projects for my brother, and professional photo shoots for his work. But we're trying to get the camera to do one extra thing that I don't think it was built to do, unless of course shooting all of those photos shouldn't be a concern for putting too much wear on the camera. I wish canon would create a timelapse video mode, much like how the HVX can shoot 2fps, which I've set up to work as a timelapse on a lot of film projects.
 
Cieloent said:
Respect is earned, not given. Your thread was/is Flame Bate. All the large font, and telling Canon what they should do with their camera + etc.

I could care less what you do with the camera, but coming into the T2i forum to post a flame war was not needed. There are more respectful ways you could have posted your problems.
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I always selectively bold parts of my writing. I wasn't starting a flame war. Sorry you interpreted it that way. I didn't mean for that.


Perhaps you could explain how I should have respectfully communicated my problems with the camera.

I'd ask you to read my original post again and see if you still think that I intended to start a flame war.
 
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FatBird19 said:
I've considered using an intervalometer, which would make this very easy, but my concern is the wear on the mechanical shutter. .
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Maybe you should consider a GH-1. Has no mechanical mirror to wear out and no overheating problems so for long timelapse use could solve the problem and stay in the budget at the same time.
 
ROCKMORE said:
Maybe you should consider a GH-1. Has no mechanical mirror to wear out and no overheating problems so for long timelapse use could solve the problem and stay in the budget at the same time.
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After reading up on the GH-1 a bit, I might have to consider that!

Do you own one or have any experience shooting on one? If so, how did you like it? :)
 
FatBird19 said:
I always selectively bold parts of my writing. I wasn't starting a flame war. Sorry you interpreted it that way. I didn't mean for that.


Perhaps you could explain how I should have respectfully communicated my problems with the camera.

I'd ask you to read my original post again and see if you still think that I intended to start a flame war.
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Lets start over.

How about instead of using the battery you connect the camera to an outlet with the DC plug, this should help on the overheating. Second blast that AC in the room you are in and this should also keep your camera cool.

Last but not least you can look into the GH1 which records non stop ( your card size ) and does not over heat.

ps. Excellent footage and your brother has amazing talent!
 
I bought one of these at Staples for a laptop, and cut it in half. I sewed the ends shut to make 2 separate bags with a velcro clsure so I could have one to use, and one in a cooler on standby. Have never had an issue yet.
Originally I used 5 zip lock bags within each other, but they still leaked. An ice pack within a ziplock bag within a neoprene bag is pure sweetness when needed.

BTW...they come in a few different sizes. ie for laptops, ext HDD, etc

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Neoprene-15-4-Bu...ltDomain_0?hash=item414e2dfca9#ht_2330wt_1167
 
Vince K said:
I bought one of these at Staples for a laptop, and cut it in half. I sewed the ends shut to make 2 separate bags with a velcro clsure so I could have one to use, and one in a cooler on standby. Have never had an issue yet.
Originally I used 5 zip lock bags within each other, but they still leaked. An ice pack within a ziplock bag within a neoprene bag is pure sweetness when needed.

BTW...they come in a few different sizes. ie for laptops, ext HDD, etc

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Neoprene-15-4-Bu...ltDomain_0?hash=item414e2dfca9#ht_2330wt_1167
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May I ask on what part of the camera do you put the ice pack too?

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Thanks
 
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