two weeks with the d5200

Rigby

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So I've had the camera for a couple of weeks. I've filmed about 5 commercials with it and brought it with me to a convention. There's plenty to like about the camera and one thing that really sucks.

The d5200 has a lot going for it. It's pretty good in low light. I think the live view through the HDMI looks great. It produces nice fluid motion when panning and the jello doesn't seem as bad as it looks through the camera. It's about the same as most cameras. Maybe slightly worse.

Battery life is fairly short so make sure to order multiple batteries. I got it with the kit lens which I could do without. I guess it will be nice for taking pictures.

The bad thing about this camera is the banding. I know there are a bunch of threads discussing the problem. I read them all before I purchased the camera. It's hard to figure out what to believe until you have a camera in your hands. I feel like it's a real issue and I am not a pixel peeper. You can live with it and work around it but it's kind of lame because it just doesn't seem like something you should have to deal with. I was going to buy multiple d5200s but will probably hold off.

The Nex5n actually looks better to me when I compared footage from the two shot at the same time. The codec isn't as good but the camera is a bit more forgiving if you don't get your lighting just perfect. The d5200 does have a sharper image. Plus, a much better live view. That's the one thing that screws the nex5n. Oh, and overheating which the Nikon doesn't seem to have an issue with.

So, it's a good camera and I enjoy using it. The price is fantastic for sure. I just hope they address the banding issue if at all possible. That would make it a home run,

Remember this is one mans opinion. I hope someone finds this useful.

I would also love to hear anyone's suggestions for profile settings that they think work well or minimize the look of the banding. I'm guessing the fix is to just crush the hell out of your black levels and to take your time with exact exposure. So, maybe ordering a light meter with the camera might be a good idea as well.
 
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Yikes. Thanks for the report - I'm about to pull the trigger on a D7100, and this issue (along with the D7100-specific exposure mode handling weirdness reported in another thread here) are making me pause.

The thing is: I haven't seen any really clear examples of the sort of noise we're talking about. Lots of comments in threads here and in the personal-view forums, but then lots of people have criticised the rolling shutter when it turns out they simply can't hold a camera still (ie. what they're calling 'rolling shutter'/skew is really handheld shake. At least one example video turns out not to have been shot on a D5200 at all. It's hard to know what to think.

Do you have any good(/bad) examples of the shadow banding issues?

Thanks again for the report. Very useful.
 
It's not banding, it's fixed pattern noise, banding is posterisation which is something that's a problem with the Nex-5n and not the D5200. To avoid the FPN don't underexpose and shot at under 200 ISO or 400 and 800 ISO, these ISO's have the least FPN. I noticed different white balance setting have different levels of FPN. Picture profiles had less effect on the FPN but shooting too flat will accentuate the FPN.

The rolling shutter isn't terrible http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?303559-Measuring-rolling-shutter-put-a-number-on-this-issue!
 
Yeah I noticed the fixed patern noise and it really bad at some iso levels but I seemed to have no problem removing it with Neat Video, enough step that isnt something I would want to have to do but it could be worst. Still the camera is really nice and I am really enjoying it, but then again I use it for about 50% video 50% photography.
 
I plan to take some video prob this weekend depending on rain so ill try to post them as soon as i can showing how the camera does in different situations with different settings. I havent had the camera long so im still learning it. So far i really like it.
 
Yeah, I should have said fixed pattern noise. JonathanS: It's not horrible but it's just another one of those things that keeps us all a step away from a dream camera. Certainly in that price range...

My issue is that you really need to nail your exposure because you're going to have a very difficult time pulling up dark areas. It gets pretty messy fairly quickly. In a pinch, with little set up time, I would grab a different camera. Maybe I'll get more comfortable with it and I'll feel differently over time. That being said I do like everything else about the d5200 but will probably not order another.

I don't have footage to post since I've only filmed paying gigs. I hope to get something next week for myself.
 
If you shoot 800 ISO and lower it is ok. Then with a noise reduction plug-in it helps a lot to make it look right. Great camera the D5200.
 
Thanks for the comments and reassurance, everyone. I still don't really have a handle on what this is going to look like, but I'm heading out on a shoot today with a D7000… it's not going to look worse. :-) I'll be ordering a D7100 soon, and I guess as with the 7000 I'll consider it a stop-gap until something actually decent comes along. In the meantime, I'll enjoy the pictures I can make with it.
 
Does it have the same lifeview bug as the 5100 where you won't see changes made from fstop and shutter changes once you go into it??? That is annoying as hell on my 5100
 
@nanofiber - that's not really a bug as such, Nikon lenses have a mechanical aperture which is operated by the camera's mirror mechanism. Once the mirror's up, there's no way for the camera to adjust aperture. Hence: aperture is locked in live view. The D800 gets around this by having an electro-mechanical aperture adjustment, but that system hasn't yet filtered down to the lower-end models.

So: yes, with the D5200 and D7100 you can't change the aperture whilst shooting. How much of a problem this is for you depends on your shooting style. Personally, I find it a limitation but only rarely is it critical.
 
I just shoot with aperture ring lenses. You can get some killer manual or early Af glass affordably - and the focus feel beats the heck out of DX glass. When I shoot stills I use the command dials (D7000), but for video I switch the control to aperture ring. Guess I'm just used to twisting a ring.
 
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