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ok... I thought so, it must have been the smaller 4-inch M-Audios you were saying to do that for...
So what do you think Ullanta... should I jump on them given my room size and all... I am quite sure you made it clear that I should feel comfortable in the investment but did you see those pics? I should add better ones and clean up, but I am spent... sorry :tongue:
So what do you think Ullanta... should I jump on them given my room size and all... I am quite sure you made it clear that I should feel comfortable in the investment but did you see those pics? I should add better ones and clean up, but I am spent... sorry :tongue:
ullanta
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The TR-5s are a solid investment, and the price is good. You at some point might want to upgrade them, but that won't make 'em useless... often you'll want a variety of monitors to listen on to check the "generality" of your mixes, and they'd certainly be useful if you set up a second edit station, etc.
For critical listening , you may want to modify your setup a bit, though in a free and temporary way... basically, you want an equilateral triangle with your speakers and your head at the corners, and the speakers aimed at your head. Being in the corner as you are, that'll be a little hard to achieve. So I'd say mount the speakers on the wall, near head level, at a point where they're about 6 feet apart. Mount 'em in such a way that you can chenge the angle. Now, when you are doing critical audio work, pull your whole table back to a point where your head is about6 feet from each speaker, and aim the speakers properly. When you're not concentrating on the audio, you can push the table back into the corner and aim the speakers for that...
Make sure the monitors aren't blocking the path from the speakers to your ears!
For critical listening , you may want to modify your setup a bit, though in a free and temporary way... basically, you want an equilateral triangle with your speakers and your head at the corners, and the speakers aimed at your head. Being in the corner as you are, that'll be a little hard to achieve. So I'd say mount the speakers on the wall, near head level, at a point where they're about 6 feet apart. Mount 'em in such a way that you can chenge the angle. Now, when you are doing critical audio work, pull your whole table back to a point where your head is about6 feet from each speaker, and aim the speakers properly. When you're not concentrating on the audio, you can push the table back into the corner and aim the speakers for that...
Make sure the monitors aren't blocking the path from the speakers to your ears!
Ok... thanks for the support ullanta and everyone else... I let him know I will get those as soon as he can upgrade and offered him to pay him now so he can get them asap.
I thought it might be more like 3-4 feet... ouch! 6 ft is a lot! I'll have to figure something out... Maybe little metal stands? And some sort of setup so I can pull the table like you said.
Would it be ok to set up the table against one of the walls or would having a wall real close on only one side ruin the sound? That was also one of the main reasons why I set it up on the corner... I wanted things to be more balanced from side to side.
I thought it might be more like 3-4 feet... ouch! 6 ft is a lot! I'll have to figure something out... Maybe little metal stands? And some sort of setup so I can pull the table like you said.
Would it be ok to set up the table against one of the walls or would having a wall real close on only one side ruin the sound? That was also one of the main reasons why I set it up on the corner... I wanted things to be more balanced from side to side.
ullanta
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You're best off, in your situation, having the speakers against a flat wall, as far from side-walls as possible. Having a close wall on only one side will be less than ideal.
Of course, no offense, this applies to almost all setups, plenty of things in your situation are far from "ideal". So do what you have to do, see how it sounds, and make small improvements as you go. As you can guess, my solutions involve moving things around my studio so I can position myself well when necessary, but get all the space back when I'm working on other aspects of a project.
Six feet is a guideline you certainly can vary from, but the triangle proportions are pretty important. Don't put the speakers too close, though!
Your nice, high, slanted wooden ceilings are a big plus!
Of course, no offense, this applies to almost all setups, plenty of things in your situation are far from "ideal". So do what you have to do, see how it sounds, and make small improvements as you go. As you can guess, my solutions involve moving things around my studio so I can position myself well when necessary, but get all the space back when I'm working on other aspects of a project.
Six feet is a guideline you certainly can vary from, but the triangle proportions are pretty important. Don't put the speakers too close, though!
Your nice, high, slanted wooden ceilings are a big plus!
yes of course this is far from an ideal setup, no offense taken at all... or course!
So I guess the best way to setup it up is the way I have it right now... where it will not be tight against a wall for better bass but at least it will not be lob-sided (how the crap do you spell that?)
Yes the ceiling is doing a huge trick here.. moving from a regular box room to the loft made a W-O-R-L-D of difference so much so that I am willing to put up with the higher ambient temperatures and put up for about $100 + from blasting the AC to get the loft survivable in the hot valley summer!
I understand the triangle proportion is a BIG thing.. when I read about it on "Audio Postproduction for Digital Video" I tested it and I noticed a big difference from breaking the triangle... I have been applying it to my sensitive mixing... still not enough with these speakers...
So what do you think about setting up with a smaller than ideal triangle... then an ideal triangle for final mixing... say 4 foot triangle for every-day...? how big of an impact would that have?
So I guess the best way to setup it up is the way I have it right now... where it will not be tight against a wall for better bass but at least it will not be lob-sided (how the crap do you spell that?)
Yes the ceiling is doing a huge trick here.. moving from a regular box room to the loft made a W-O-R-L-D of difference so much so that I am willing to put up with the higher ambient temperatures and put up for about $100 + from blasting the AC to get the loft survivable in the hot valley summer!
I understand the triangle proportion is a BIG thing.. when I read about it on "Audio Postproduction for Digital Video" I tested it and I noticed a big difference from breaking the triangle... I have been applying it to my sensitive mixing... still not enough with these speakers...
So what do you think about setting up with a smaller than ideal triangle... then an ideal triangle for final mixing... say 4 foot triangle for every-day...? how big of an impact would that have?
saneproductions
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I would also think about using speaker stands and positioning the speakers at ear level out from the wall a bit.
You are getting great responses Roberto!
I say go for the Events!!!!!
You are getting great responses Roberto!
I say go for the Events!!!!!
Yea I really am! I am getting lots of posts with great detail. Thanks again o all of you for taking the time to explain and comment.
I basically shifted to waiting for my Events... it is all a matter of time now, till Chris decides he can shed the $1000 on his Yamaha set.
I am also thinking about possibly building a desk-shelf unit... still in the corner. But this time with enough desktop space to place the speakers on the sides of the LCDs and about 4 - 1/2 feet apart from each other. And yet more desktop surface to pull them out to the sides even further to close to or exactly 6 feet.
If I do this then I would also build include detached risers for the LCDs and speakers. And a place for my case to breathe but somehow be blocked for reduced fan noise... I would also have a shelf for the CRT in the corner on a second level...
So now all I need is a carpentry forum?!?
rogar-Kriz(DBG):
I basically shifted to waiting for my Events... it is all a matter of time now, till Chris decides he can shed the $1000 on his Yamaha set.
I am also thinking about possibly building a desk-shelf unit... still in the corner. But this time with enough desktop space to place the speakers on the sides of the LCDs and about 4 - 1/2 feet apart from each other. And yet more desktop surface to pull them out to the sides even further to close to or exactly 6 feet.
If I do this then I would also build include detached risers for the LCDs and speakers. And a place for my case to breathe but somehow be blocked for reduced fan noise... I would also have a shelf for the CRT in the corner on a second level...
So now all I need is a carpentry forum?!?
rogar-Kriz(DBG):
ullanta
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Hey, I basically did the same with a hodhepodge of Ikea stuff and a little plywood... I'll have to clean up some day and take a picture to post...