True or False? In camera settings.

PaPa

PaPa

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Concidering the fact that the dvx, as it is a wonderus camera, is not a magic camera, in the sense that it lacks the dynamic range of light sensitivity. We all know that Color correcting has opened many doors for indie film makers to achieve very surreal images. Now, the question is this:

Since the camera has such little dynamic range, no where near as close as film, would it not be safe to say that the camera could capture much more latitude in light if shot with a flatter image? to preserve detail in all areas? By this, i mean having your pedestal ( in camera ) to a positive figure? as opposed to a negative figure to crush the blacks in camera?

Now, would that not allow for greater range and control in post? That way would one not be more capable of altering the image to more controlled and specific amounts?

I look forward to hearing the answer to this.

-Jon
 
PaPa:

Cine-like gamma and Cine-like matrix are designed to model the dynamic range of film in both sensitivity and color. As matter of fact if you compare the cine-like gamma to normal you will notice the image appears much "flatter" and the normal setting make the image more "video" like. But If you watch output from the camera recorded in Cine-like in a darkened room similar to a movie theater the colors and dynamics shine through.

Also making DVX appear like film not only means setting a simple switch but properly lighting and exposing the scene.

Adjusting master ped in + direction will extend the dynamic range of the shadow areas but go to far and the image muddies. Again it takes more than the camera.

S Cannon
 
i generally shoot on both cinelike for both my matrix and gamma. So yes, taking lighting into account, everything set up perfectly, in a perfect shot, which settings would allow for largest dynamic range and latitude? cinelike, cinelike d, cine like v

all with a pedestal of 0 to +5
 
I'm pretty sure I've read Barry Green saying somewhere that Cinelike_D and Cine_like will get you more dynamic range than cinelike_V. I THINK I remember something about D recording much more information in the dark/black areas than the other two (or maybe just more than V). So I'd say just stick with cine-like or cinelike_D for dynamic range, and V for when you want higher contrast looks In-Camera. Where's Barry Green when you need him? Calling Barry!
 
D stands for "dynamic range"; cine-like-D is optimized to provide the widest dynamic range the DVX can deliver. But wide dynamic range means flatter contrast, so cine-like-D doesn't have the most striking image. Cine-like-V is "v for video"; it's optimized to provide a punchy/contrasty image that looks great on a TV, but doesn't necessarily have the most dynamic range. Both provide the characteristic cine-like gamma look, just tailored for different preferences.
 
Barry_Green said:
D stands for "dynamic range"; cine-like-D is optimized to provide the widest dynamic range the DVX can deliver. But wide dynamic range means flatter contrast, so cine-like-D doesn't have the most striking image. Cine-like-V is "v for video"; it's optimized to provide a punchy/contrasty image that looks great on a TV, but doesn't necessarily have the most dynamic range. Both provide the characteristic cine-like gamma look, just tailored for different preferences.
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For a look that resembles a filmic image curve, which do you use?
 
nice, barry posted in my thread!

so which one will provide me with the most control in post? cinelike or cinelike D
 
I really never take the dvx out of Cine-d. V is kindof like a crippled D on the DVX, it doesnt reflect as personal as D does. V does have its strengths, and when you move to the HVX you start to appreciate the differences a little more.
 
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