True 16x9 in 480p

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alldridge

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One of the biggest gripes about the DVX is it's fixed full-frame action. We don't know the full specs, but are we all assuming the HVX is capturing an anamorphic image in a standard 16x9 format?

So, unlike the DVX, can this camera capture 24p 480 to DV tape (aha, yes I said it, blasphemous to Panny at the moment: tape) with TRUE 16x9?

If so, wouldn't this be a better investment in image quality for someone who wants to shoot a 24p movie in SD widescreen who may not be able to afford the production costs of HD yet —keyword, yet. Then graduate up to HD?


*on a side note, is anyone wishing they'd make a more compact HVX version later WITHOUT a DV deck and only P2 slots?
 
Yes the HVX will be good for shooting 16:9 SD.

And I dont think a HVX without deck would be good idea. With the deck it makes the HVX more flexible.

Even if I will shoot HD sometimes. 99% of my work will still be in SD.
 
alldridge said:
*on a side note, is anyone wishing they'd make a more compact HVX version later WITHOUT a DV deck and only P2 slots?
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i may be wrong but i swear that early production rumors/photos of the HVX showed a camera that didn't have a drive at all. it was smaller and had a handle that flipped down. i swear maybe hearing/seeing this around 03/04, perhaps for the 2004 CES or NAB.

does anyone else remember seeing vague pics of a camera like that under a semitransparent cover?
 
I remember that contentlab, it looked like an 8mm camera. I have no idea if that was the beginings of the HVX, and they just went a different direction, but I remember there being proposed two versions, one MPEG and one DVCPRO.

I really wish I knew what that was and what happened to that product or direction.
 
I agree, the HVX should be a great cam to use in SD. While it's still out of my price-range, having just bought a DVX, I look forward to checking out used cams when the second generation HVX comes out. While it can be impossibly expensive to keep up with ever-evolving technology, those of us who don't mind being "a step behind" can get some great deals on awesome equipment. I predict that the once the HVX and DVXb are solidly on the market, people will be buying used DVX100a's in great condition for easily under two grand.
 
that was just a mock up..... I believe it has been refferred to many.. many.. many.. times as the "balsa wood mockup"...
 
Yeah, anyone thinking about an XL2 should take a close look at the HVX. Native 16x9 MiniDV to tape, PLUS the ability to later on shoot DVCPro50 and DVCProHD, all for less than $6000.
 
I know it was just a mockup Loki, I was just wondering what they were doing with it? It's just something teased that was not really ever referred to again except that it wasn't the HVX.
 
MovieSwede said:
And I dont think a HVX without deck would be good idea. With the deck it makes the HVX more flexible.

Even if I will shoot HD sometimes. 99% of my work will still be in SD.
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I'd say about 50% of my work will be SD to start out - but when it is, it's gonna be DVCPRO50 and not DV. Personally, I could care less about the deck (but I know why they've included it).

Braw said:
I know it was just a mockup Loki, I was just wondering what they were doing with it? It's just something teased that was not really ever referred to again except that it wasn't the HVX.
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It was just the beginnings of their "handheld P2 cam." It's evolved into the HVX we know now.
 
I remember TWO DIFFERENT mockups from Pana without tape - both looked like a 8mm cam and both were announced to appear between 2006 and 2007 as P2-/SD-based CONSUMER-cams - so I'm sure, they are still working on it, as it's not comparable with the HVX200 - it will just be perhaps the first Panasonic Consumer HD-Cam, tapeless with P2 or SD-card. But who knows what HD-format they will use.... If you count all details together: 1) Panasonic goes tapeless 2) no HD-consumer cam so far 3) 2 mockups that look very similar (both like a super-8 cam) appearing in 2 different years - it really looks to me as Panasonic is working on that cam for the last 3 years and it can come out any moment after the HVX200 will be on the market for a while...

first model:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/panasonic-p2-flash-pro-04_18_04.htm

anthrazit-version of first model:
http://www.cinematography.com/forum2004/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=102

second model:
(still searching for it...was it on Panasonic.com?)
 
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